| ▲ | shelled 3 days ago | |||||||
I am in a situation right now where Amazon delivered a fake product. Support suggested they can also try redelivery, and when I asked what if it happens again, they said it should not happen. It happened - fake again. Now the customer support flow is: you upload images of the product (max. three), and the system approves the verification or rejects it, and then you have a way to contact customer care. System rejected. The trick is - they do not know why the rejection happened, they are not able to tell me, they are confirming the images are very clear and crisp, but they can't do anything to help me because the system leaves them with zero options to move forward - in fact, there is no further escalation matrix either. Nada! The bank (credit card issuer) refused to raise the chargeback because "but the merchant 'delivered' the item". But it was fake, so? No, no, it "delivered" - that is what counts, so you have to sort it out with the merchant. But they are refusing any further help. You have to sort it out with them. And so on... in a loop. Can I take them to court? Sure. It may take weeks, months, and maybe years, and even then, in the end (if I win), the court may just instruct them to refund and possibly (possibly!) compensate a trivial amount for legal expenses, which is never even remotely close to the actual legal expenses in this country's courts. Just stonewalled. It almost feels Kafkaesque. | ||||||||
| ▲ | gcr 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
I had the misfortune of visiting an Amazon Go store. They charged me for items that I never picked. No option to contest the receipt....until the "would you recommend a friend visit amazon Go" survey popped up. I responded negatively, then the "why?" question had a "My receipt was incorrect" option. Suddenly I was able to go through the "contest receipt" workflow. 100% completely automated. | ||||||||
| ▲ | cowboylowrez 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
When I get bogus products from online ordering I just assume I got ripped off and that's that. A majority of my orders come through though so its not all bad. | ||||||||
| ▲ | account42 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Does your country not have a small claims court or equivalent? This is literally what they are for: resolving obvious payment disputes with uncooperative corporations. | ||||||||
| ▲ | vladms 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
The system works as long there is user trust in the system. It is sad and annoying when something like this happens, but occasionally the best thing you can do is tell your story and never use a service again. I find there are still reasonable alternatives to Amazon, maybe not at the same price, but at least they deliver less fakes. | ||||||||
| ▲ | queenkjuul 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Wow, i received a fake product from Amazon ten years ago, their support gave me a full refund no questions asked. Shame how far they've fallen. (Fwiw, i never bought anything from Amazon again after receiving one fake item. If i want to gamble I'll pay Aliexpress prices) | ||||||||
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| ▲ | throwaway290 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Why did you tell your bank it was delivered, if it was never delivered. Some other item you didn't order was delivered. | ||||||||
| ▲ | MichaelZuo 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Unless you live in a jurisdiction that is known to have very generous court judgements that fully compensate all expenses occured… wouldn’t this be true for literally every dispute you have above a certain threshold? That’s simply the actual cost of living in your jurisdiction. I don’t think any large retailer or bank on Earth guarantees there will be a viable escalation pathway for all possible combination of scenarios either. Maybe a very high end private bank but even that’s iffy. | ||||||||
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