Tangential rant: It’s becoming hard to buy dumb appliances.

I was looking at robot vacuums, and most need internet connection at least for setup - by which point it’s already uploaded your floor plan and who knows what to the cloud.

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gloxkiqcza 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

https://valetudo.cloud/

The project was recently discussed on HN as well. It has its issues but it works.

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einsteinx2 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Not sure that’s a great example when you can easily buy a regular vacuum. Robot vacuums are sort of by definition already the “smart appliance” version of the “dumb appliance regular vacuum”.

	▲	hs586 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I understand what you mean, but I disagree. The technology allows for robot vacuums to exist and I don’t see the cloud connection as a mandatory need for it. Similarly, I want my car to have say lane assist but we don’t expect to have cloud connection with it.