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Rikudou 3 days ago

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wiseowise 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

>> I would love to feel sorry, but seems you're technically capable of preventing this (unlike most people), just chose "convenience."

> Looks like you've got it coming, sweetie, you knew what you were dressing when going to the neighborhood :wink-emoji:

God, I'm all for OSS and try to use it/promote it wherever I can, but it attracts the worst kind of smug, obnoxious motherf**ers imaginable.

How old are you?

bigyabai 2 days ago | parent [-]

That's a bad-faith comparison, and it's making me wonder how old you are if you're conflating iCloud lockout with sexual assault.

Apple's EULA, which the OP agreed to, gives them the right to suspend services for whatever reason they want. You're only allowed to use the service by offering consent to be removed, thousands of services work that way.

OSS, and the fact that it doesn't have this weakness, is orthogonal to the "us vs them" dichotomy you're describing. Apple ID is flawed, do not trust it. Full stop.

wiseowise 2 days ago | parent [-]

> That's a bad-faith comparison, and it's making me wonder how old you are if you're conflating iCloud lockout with sexual assault.

It's called exaggeration, and it was a reply to a smug comment.

If you want apples to apples: imagine you have a reputable locker service containing your money, important documents and potentially photos spanning decades. *Billions* use it with success, it's a trillion dollar company that you've worked with for years, millions swear by it. Suddenly, you arrive at the locker in front of you and it no longer opens anymore.

> Apple's EULA, which the OP agreed to, gives them the right to suspend services for whatever reason they want. You're only allowed to use the service by offering consent to be removed, thousands of services work that way.

And this is not normal, there should be regulation that if you build a platform then you're not entitled to content generated by users. If for some reason you lock out user, they should have a right to collect all their possessions.

> OSS, and the fact that it doesn't have this weakness, is orthogonal to the "us vs them" dichotomy you're describing. Apple ID is flawed, do not trust it. Full stop.

No wonder OSS is losing when this is a hill you're willing to die on. It's a shame there are not many quality product/design people within OSS community. People who actually understand how to make a product desirable and appeal to masses, instead of "loool what a fucking dumbass you are, I'm so smart for not using this thing that millions are using, told you you'll get burnt, git gud".

bigyabai 2 days ago | parent [-]

> And this is not normal,

It's extremely normal. Click on HN's own legal agreement and see for yourself: https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/

  You acknowledge that Y Combinator reserves the right to terminate accounts that are inactive for an extended period of time. You further acknowledge that Y Combinator reserves the right to change these general practices and limits at any time, in its sole discretion, with or without notice.
> No wonder OSS is losing when this is a hill you're willing to die on.

Again; "losing" is us-vs-them language that you know misrepresents OSS' goal. There is no way to create a OSS alternative to Apple ID, or Hacker News. There's frankly not any good-faith legislation that would prevent TOS and EULA agreements. This is the uncomfortable reality of our tech-encumbered world.

You want regulation? Regulate who gets your money. Vote with your dollar, and stop pretending to be a victim.

cdmckay 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I would love to feel sorry, but seems you’re technically capable of preventing this (unlike most people), just chose “convenience.”

Well, this is the downside of “convenience.”

If you manage to recover your belongings, I hope you stop preaching around how living in a normal apartment in society is good and everyone should accept the risk of home invasion instead of living in an underground bunker with biometric access controls and armed security.

beeflet 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

living in an apartment sucks for security. You can't really own a gun and practice castle doctrine. Your landlord has a key to your home and can lock you out at any time, or can go through your mail.

There are other options like living in your own property, living in an RV, etc. that are better if you are worried about security.

If I was living in an apartment, I wouldn't be stashing all of my money under my mattress. I wouldn't run a business out of my apartment such that I would lose all of my equipment if I got evicted.

Similarly, I wouldn't do anything of importance on an apple computer. I wouldn't stash cryptocurrency on it, I wouldn't save my bank account details on it, I wouldn't run an important business that depends on their platforms. Because you're just renting and your lord can change the keys tomorrow.

graemep 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Where do you live? You are implicitly assuming a rented property. Where I live you can buy a flat. however, even assuming rented, its not that bad, atleast here in the UK.

> our landlord has a key to your home and can lock you out at any time

Illegal to do without notice and permission. You can change the locks as long as you change them back or pay for cost of doing so when you leave.

> I wouldn't run a business out of my apartment such that I would lose all of my equipment if I got evicted.

Eviction requires a legal process that takes months.

> I wouldn't run an important business that depends on their platforms.

That implies no one should develop software for Apple, MS or Google platforms.

beeflet a day ago | parent [-]

I wouldn't develop software for apple, MS or Google if I had the option. If I did, i would intend to diversify when it's practical to do so.

The only platform you list I would build for is MS' Win32, which they can't afford to deprecate and can be somewhat emulated with WINE.

ang_cire 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> You can't really own a gun and practice castle doctrine. Your landlord has a key to your home and can lock you out at any time, or can go through your mail.

None of this is true in the US.

Castle doctrine applies to your domicile, and is not based on property ownership. If you have a lease, it is your home as far as CD is concerned. WRT gun restriction rules for rental properties, they vary by state, but in states where they can be prohibited, it would require a clause in the lease for a landlord to prohibit a tenant from having them (and these are nearly unheard of in practice because of enforceability issues). And that still would not affect their legality in a defensive shooting.

Landlords usually require written notice to enter the premises, in advance, and cannot "lock you out at any time" without going through an eviction process if you have a lease.

Landlords opening your mail is a federal crime. Mail can only be opened by the named recipient, it's not based on who owns the address of a building it's delivered to.

duskdozer 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

>Landlords usually require written notice to enter the premises, in advance, and cannot "lock you out at any time" without going through an eviction process if you have a lease.

Sure, in the same way that landlords aren't able to unfairly keep security deposits - they can and often do do it because it takes a lot of time and effort to attempt to get recompense after the fact, and the consequences even in that case are not significant enough to disincentivize them.

beeflet a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Apartments can ban pets, I don't see why they would have a problem banning weapons. If you want to be a gun owner, you basically have to live in a gun-friendly county of a gun-friendly state and only carry in the minority of gun-friendly private spaces that allow them.

It's like how we have 5th ammendment rights, but they don't apply 100 miles from the border, which just happens to include 90% of the population and the entire state of florida. We have rights that are de-facto illegal to practice due to the way they're implemented.

In the last apartment I was in, my mail went directly through my landlord and I was dependent on them to filter it by apartment room number.

Almost every landlord I've had has thrown out mail they've received after I've left. So if I order something and it ends up taking 2 months to get to my apartment, and I leave after the first month, I don't have access to that mail. They just throw it out.

The landlord, at the end of the day, holds all of the keys. They can change the locks. Even if it's illegal, are you going to go to court while homeless and without access to all of your possessions? My last apartment had an app that allowed them to remotely change the lock code.

My takeaway is that it is totally impractical to run a buisness out of an apartment. When you rent, you're a basically a peasant. You don't have a permanent mailing address, you don't have real security, you have no incentive to improve the property, and you are just paying out the ass for someone else's mortgage. For anything serious, it's better to live in an RV and get a P.O. box.

Rikudou 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

So, you think there's either an unsecured apartment or a bunker, huh?

How about: you live in that apartment (your Apple ID), but keep your important stuff somewhere else?

Or do you simply have all your money as cash at home?