Is that really true?

I can name OpenAI CEO but not Anthropic CEO off the top of my head. And I actually like Anthropic's work way more than what OpenAI is doing right now.

Amanda Askell, Sholto Douglas have somewhat of a fan following on twitter

That’s always the case.

Those benchmarks mean nothing. Anthropic still makes the models that gets real work done in enterprise. We want to move but are unable to.

If anyone disagrees,I would like to see their long running deep research agents built on gemini or openai.

> Their valuation is in the same order of magnitude as OpenAI, but they have orders of magnitude fewer users.

it's an open question how many of OpenAI's users are monetizable.

There's an argument to be made that your brand being what the general public identifies with AI is a medium term liability in light of the vast capital and operating costs involved.

It may well be that Anthropic focusing on an order of magnitudes smaller, but immediately monetiazable market will play out better.

Anthropic has less users, but I think their value per user is higher due to claude mostly producing code. I know my shop is just gonna keep paying for $200 max subscriptions until one of these open source clients with a chinese LLM can beat sonnet 4.5 (which may be now, but not worth it for me to explore until its solid enough for my uses)

Low scores on HLE and ARC AGI might be a good sign. They didn't goodhart their models. ARG AGI in particular doesn't mean much, IMO. It's just some weird hard geometry induction. I don't think it correlates well with real world problem solving.

AFAICT, claude code is the biggest engineering mind share. An apple software engineer of mine says he sometimes uses $100/day of claude code tokens at work and gets sad, because that's the budget.

Also, look at costs and revenue. OpenAI is bleeding way more than Antropic.

Not sure how relevant it is, but I finally decided to dip my toes in last night and write my first agent. Despite paying for ChatGPT Pro, Claude Pro, etc, you still have to load up credits to use the API version of them. I started with Claude, but there was a bug on the add credit form and I couldn't submit (I'm guessing they didn't test on MacOS Safari, maybe?). So I gave up and moved on to OpenAI's developer thing.

Maybe they should do less vibe coding on their checkout flow and they might have more users.

Hard to believe you could be so misinformed. Anthropic is not far behind OAI on revenue and has a much more stable position with most of it coming from enterprise/business customers.

I’d argue openAI has put their cards on the table and they don’t have anything special, while Anthropic has not.

Their valuations come from completely different calculus: Anthropic looks much more like a high potential early startup still going after PMF while OpenAI looks more like a series B flailing to monetize.

The cutting edge has largely moved past benchmarks, beyond a certain performance threshold that all these models have reached, nobody really cares about scores anymore, except people overfitting to them. They’re going for models that users like better, and Claude has a very loyal following.

TLDR, OpenAI has already peaked, Anthropic hasn’t, this the valuation difference.

The anthropic principle is named as such because it is "pertaining to human beings".

This is like saying McDonald's is named after the McDonald's happy meal rather than the McDonald brothers.

Just look at their aesthetic/branding, or the way they've trained their models. Very Anthrop-ic.

anthropic is derived from the Greek word anthropos (human)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle

Really? Anthropic is /the/ AI company known for anthropomorphizing their models, giving them ethics and “souls”, considering their existential crises, etc.

Oh wow conreasoning through an IRC like chat. That's a great idea.

Would be cool (sci fi) for LLMs of different users to chat and discuss approaches to what the humans are talking about etc.

Claude Code and its ecosystem is what made me pick Anthropic over OpenAI for our engineers, when we decided to do seat licensing for everyone last week.

It's a huge asset.

I appreciate Claude not training on my data by default. ChatGPT through the browser does not give you that option.

Same here. Until I read more about them and actually seem sketchy too. All about “safety” reasons not to do certain things.

Oh nice. I did not know. Thanks for the link.