> The walled garden has to end. There is no excuse for making people pay a premium price for an iPad Pro that can't run a third party web browser or do software development in any meaningful way.

Why?

There's an alternative: Android. I'm perfectly free to use that instead. I don't.

If I want to "do software development in any meaningful way", I'm not using a tablet. I'm using something with MacOS or GNU/Linux on it.

People willingly pay what Apple's charging for the iPad in the face of competition from a different OS and different classes of device, so I'm not really seeing the problem, especially when I can hand my technologically-handicapped 65-year-old mother an iPad and not have to worry as much about her installing something that will wreck every device on my parents' network or compromise her bank accounts or something.

Besides, the whole "locked-down device" wasn't Tim's idea, it was Steve's. There are plenty of reasons to gripe about Tim Cook, but "the iPad is too locked down" isn't one of them.

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Ensorceled 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> There's an alternative: Android. I'm perfectly free to use that instead. I don't.

I think this is my entire problem with most of these conversations. When they say "The walled garden has to end." ... they mean "YOUR walled garden has to end.".

I also like the Walled Garden. Do I think Apple should be able to charge more than Stripe? No.

I wish they would stop conflating the gate keeping price to enter the walled garden being too high with the wall garden and the gate being a moral wrong.

	▲	lenerdenator 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Apparently, the market can bear Apple charging more than Stripe. Hell, Stripe's business model is just moneychanging at its core; at least Apple can make an argument that they do more than that.

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bogdan 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> I can hand my technologically-handicapped 65-year-old mother an iPad and not have to worry

We don't have to lock an entire ecosystem of devices because your mom's technologically-handicapped

	▲	O-stevns 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		As we dive further and further into them being dependent on said devices to be part of modern society... Yes we do. It's the niche that wants open and flexible devices and the ability to customize everything. Let's not ruin iOS by trying to make it Android. I say that both as an iOS developer and Android user.
	▲	lenerdenator 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Find another ecosystem of devices. There are plenty. And it's not just my family, there's at least one person in most families who is like that.