| ▲ | apical_dendrite 4 days ago | |
Please actually read what I wrote. You are responding to something that I did not write. I did not claim that there wasn't "massive, unchecked surveillance". The specific claim that I made was that the conspiracy-theory films of the 1990s were based on the idea of unchecked surveillance of US citizens that was then used for purposes such as targeting and murder of US citizens in the United States. There was nothing in the Snowden documents that suggested there were rogue operators going out and murdering Americans. In fact, when it came to Americans specifically, there was minimization, and attempts to abide by FISA, none of which ever featured in 1990s-era conspiracy films. I very specifically spoke about minimization as regards Americans, not globally. | ||
| ▲ | jasonvorhe 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | |
Rogue agents wouldn't leave much of a paper trail. They don't tend to slap together slide decks advertising their operations. The Snowden docs contain nothing about US black budget funded regime change, drug smuggling, politically motivated assassinations or whatever else countless ex-intelligence whistleblowers have claimed to happen in the shadows. I sure don't think all of them can be believed 100% but I wouldn't have expected anything of this nature to show up in typical S/TS/NOFORN documents that someone like Snowden leaked. Snowden docs don't contain* anything about what happens in DUMBS, secret military facilities like biolabs, propulsion and energy research or anything else* that conspiracy researchers are interested in. to my knowledge/memory * Snowden docs were never published in full so we don't know what Guardian et al decided to not publish because they're all too intertwined with intelligence | ||
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