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tzs 2 days ago

> The issue I'm trying to sound the horn on is that the current push for AF in the US and EU has nothing to do with kids. I think you could put together a working group on ZKPs and Age Verification, write up a paper and run experiments, and when you bring it to the lawmakers they're gonna say something to the tune of:

The EU is currently doing large-scale field tries of the EU Digital Identity Wallet, which they have been working on for several years. It uses ZKPs for age verification. They expect to roll it out to the public near the end of 2026.

pksebben 2 days ago | parent [-]

I appreciate the mention - i had not yet heard of this EU DIW thing. That said, I can't find any resources on it that mention the use of ZKPs. Could you share a link?

MatteoFrigo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

https://ageverification.dev/av-doc-technical-specification/d...

delusional 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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pksebben 2 days ago | parent [-]

Ya got me. Nevermind that the DSA (which I have read, in part) and the DIW (new to me) are different things, and that one does not mention the other [0]. Also the DSA is happening now while the Wallet thing isn't rolled out.

There are actual discussions about VPN regulation in relation to AV in the US [1]. The UK's OSA [2] is blatant about the need to violate encryption. Australia's OSA [3] has also come under criticism for precisely the things I'm talking about. Is it a stretch to extend this reasoning to the EU's incredibly similar legislation? Honk my nose if you must but I don't think so.

Here's the thing - I don't want you to listen to me, or anyone else on the internet, as an 'expert'. Verify your information personally, even when you trust it.

0 - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32...

1 -https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/11/lawmakers-want-ban-vpn...

2 - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/contents

3 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Amendment

MatteoFrigo 2 days ago | parent [-]

FWIW, not that it matters, the proper acronyms are EUDI (EU Digital Itentity) and EUDIW (EUDI Wallet). DIW is not used.