| ▲ | FergusArgyll 4 days ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||
A new pretrain would definitely get more than a .1 version bump & would get a whole lot more hype I'd think. They're expensive to do! | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | caconym_ 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Releasing anything as "GPT-6" which doesn't provide a generational leap in performance would be a PR nightmare for them, especially after the underwhelming release of GPT-5. I don't think it really matters what's under the hood. People expect model "versions" to be indexed on performance. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ACCount37 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Not necessarily. GPT-4.5 was a new pretrain on top of a sizeable raw model scale bump, and only got 0.5 - because the gains from reasoning training in o-series overshadowed GPT-4.5's natural advantage over GPT-4. OpenAI might have learned not to overhype. They already shipped GPT-5 - which was only an incremental upgrade over o3, and was received poorly, with this being a part of the reason why. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | hannesfur 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Maybe they felt the increase in capability is not worth of a bigger version bump. Additionally pre-training isn't as important as it used to be. Most of the advances we see now probably come from the RL stage. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | femiagbabiaka 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Not if they didn't feel that it delivered customer value no? It's about under promising and over delivering, in every instance | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jumploops 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
It’s possible they’re using some new architecture to get more up-to-date data, but I think that’d be even more of a headline. My hunch is that this is the same 5.1 post-training on a new pretrained base. Likely rushed out the door faster than they initially expected/planned. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | OrangeMusic 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Yeah because OpenAI has been great at naming their models so far? ;) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | boc 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Maybe the rumors about failed training runs weren't wrong... | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | redwood 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Not if it underwhelms | |||||||||||||||||||||||