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simonw 2 days ago

Wow, there's a lot going on with this pelican riding a bicycle: https://gist.github.com/simonw/c31d7afc95fe6b40506a9562b5e83...

alechewitt 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Nice work on these benchmarks Simon. I’ve followed your blog closely since your great talk at the AI Engineers World Fair, and I want to say thank you for all the high quality content you share for free. It’s become my primary source for keeping up to date.

I’ve been working on a few benchmarks to test how well LLMs can recreate interfaces from screenshots. (https://github.com/alechewitt/llm-ui-challenge). From my basic tests, it seems GPT-5.2 is slightly better at these UI recreations. For example, in the MS Word replica, it implemented the undo/redo buttons as well as the bold/italic formatting that GPT-5.1 handled, and it generally seemed a bit closer to the original screenshot (https://alechewitt.github.io/llm-ui-challenge/outputs/micros...).

In the VS Code test, it also added the tabs that weren’t visible in the screenshot! (https://alechewitt.github.io/llm-ui-challenge/outputs/vs_cod...).

simonw 2 days ago | parent [-]

That is a very good benchmark. Interesting to see GPT-5.2 delivering on the promise of better vision support there.

Stevvo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The variance is way too high for this test to have any value at all. I ran it 10 times, and each pelican on a bicycle was a better rendition than that, about half of them you could say were perfect.

golly_ned 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Compared to the other benchmarks which are much more gameable, I trust PelicanBikeEval way more.

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refulgentis 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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getnormality a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, the variance is itself interesting.

throwaway102398 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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BeetleB 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They probably saw your complaint that 5.1 was too spartan and a regression (I had the same experience with 5.1 in the POV-Ray version - have yet to try 5.2 out...).

tkgally 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I added GPT-5.2 Pro to my pelican-alternatives benchmark for the first three prompts:

Generate an SVG of an octopus operating a pipe organ

Generate an SVG of a giraffe assembling a grandfather clock

Generate an SVG of a starfish driving a bulldozer

https://gally.net/temp/20251107pelican-alternatives/index.ht...

GPT-5.2 Pro cost about 80 cents per prompt through OpenRouter, so I stopped there. I don’t feel like spending that much on all thirty prompts.

philipgross 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That gallery is an excellent advertisement for Gemini 3.0 Pro.

smusamashah a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Hi, it doesn't have Gemini 3.5 Pro which seems to be the best at this

svantana a day ago | parent [-]

That's probably because "Gemini 3.5 Pro" doesn't exist

AstroBen 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems to be getting more aerodynamic. A clear sign of AI intelligence

fxwin 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the only benchmark i trust

minimaxir 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is that the first SVG pelican with drop shadows?

simonw 2 days ago | parent [-]

No, I got drop shadows from DeepSeek 3.2 recently https://simonwillison.net/2025/Dec/1/deepseek-v32/ (probably others as well.)

sroussey 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What is good at SVG design?

culi a day ago | parent | next [-]

Not svg, but basically the same challenge:

https://clocks.brianmoore.com/

Probably Kimi or Deepseek are best

azinman2 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Graphic designers?

KellyCriterion a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Ive not seen any model being good in graphic/svg creation so far - all of the stuff mostly looks ugly and somewhat "synthetic-disorted".

And lately, Claude (web) started to draw ascii charts from one day to another indstead of colorful infographicstyled-images as it did before (they were only slightly better than the ascii charts)

tmaly 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

seems to be eating something

danans 2 days ago | parent [-]

Probably a jellyfish. You're seeing the tentacles

belter 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What happens if you ask for a pterodactyl on a motorbike?

Would like to know how much they are optimizing for your pelican....

simonkagedal 2 days ago | parent [-]

He commented on this here: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/13/training-for-pelicans-...

irthomasthomas 2 days ago | parent [-]

I was expecting to see a pterodactyl :(

nightshift1 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

benchmarks probably should not be used for so long.

tootie 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you think the big guys are on to your game and have been adding extra pelicans to the training data?