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high_na_euv 4 days ago

>If I’m queer and Facebook is actively censoring queer content then that’s more significant to me than just being a difference of opinion. The company is actively suppressing my way of life.

Why queer community will not find an alternative app?

afavour 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is the incredibly profitable contradiction Facebook lives in.

They do everything they can to become the central place for online communication and profit enormously from that. But they reject any of the responsibility that ought to come along with that, the refrain being what you're saying here: "well, you can always just go somewhere else"

Except that when online communication is as deeply siloed as it is it's extremely difficult to set up an alternative. How will people even find out about it when their entire online lives are lived on Facebook? This capture is exactly what Meta wants. Remember internet.org?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet.org

Picking and choosing which services people can use is Zuckerberg's explicit goal.

ModernMech 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Why should they have to?

high_na_euv 4 days ago | parent [-]

If they believe that current app is censoring them, then moving to queer friendly solution seems to solve this issue, right?

Like not every social media is good for everything

Top software engineering content is also not on facebook

ModernMech 4 days ago | parent [-]

No, because then what happens when the place they move to starts censoring them as well? Then all the places start censoring them? You're basically arguing for "separate but equal", and we know how that works out. The correct move is to fight for your rights, not to assuage bigotry.

But answer the question, why should they have to?

rtp4me 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

And you are arguing every business must support your agenda, and if not, they are your "enemy"? What an odd take. Again, you are free to use other means of social media to spread your message but no one is obligated to read or support it. And, that does not make them the enemy.

ModernMech 4 days ago | parent [-]

You're confused, I didn't actually make that argument.

high_na_euv 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would they be obligated to host/serve you?

Just like restaurant owner can kick you, they also can.

If you dont agree with it, then vote for social media being treated as infrastructure like roads

ModernMech 4 days ago | parent [-]

They are not obligated, I'm not saying they're obligated. Although restaurant owners can't discriminate, we have laws against that.

What I'm asking you is: why should they have to find a new place?

high_na_euv 3 days ago | parent [-]

If they believe that current app is censoring them, then moving to queer friendly solution seems to solve this issue, right?

ModernMech 3 days ago | parent [-]

You already said that. It does not answer the question. Moving to another app doesn't solve anything, because we still haven't answered the question of why they should have had to move in the first place! It's the same situation if they move to a new app, nothing has changed.

At this point we have gone in a circle, I must assume I won't get a genuine answer to the only thing I have asked despite trying to engage genuinely in conversation. Have a good day.