| ▲ | brokenmachine 3 days ago |
| Reading a standards spec to understand what the device you paid for does? Straight to jail! Pirating the entire internet to train your AI? That's fair use. |
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| ▲ | bobdvb 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| They're wrong, there's nothing stopping you implementing anything you like, you just can't use the HDMI brand without complying with their rules. |
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| ▲ | xg15 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | This sounds too easy to be true. Does the "brand" include the physical shape of the connector? Could I make hardware with a "NotHDMI" port that "happens" to be mechanically compatible with HDMI plugs, has the exact same pinout, etc etc? Even then: In the OP case the hardware is already there, it's only about the driver. So wouldn't a driver for hardware that very clearly identifies the port as "HDMI" run into the same problem, even if the driver itself never mentions the term? | | |
| ▲ | bobdvb 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | No, the connectors wouldn't be regulated, you're not violating any IP by buying them and there's no prohibition on any of the manufacturers selling them to unlicensed companies. At worst you can assert a patent against the design but there's no specific patent for that design, there are patents for some aspects of the design/implementation but they're hold by the manufacturers of the connectors themselves. There have been many examples in the past of consumer electronics companies selling things that are electrically and logically compatible with HDMI, but they just have to avoid using the word HDMI. Probably one thing that the HDMI forum is holding over AMD/Valve is that there's an API to manage some of the functions of the HDMI driver. They could infer that this API is a part of the closed standards of HDMI Forum. But 90% of the threat is about certification and branding I am sure. | |
| ▲ | einsteinx2 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Could I make hardware with a "NotHDMI" port that "happens" to be mechanically compatible with HDMI plugs, has the exact same pinout, etc etc? Yes there are a bunch of products that do exactly this, sometimes with the same pin out and used for video output to HDMI compatible screens (internal HDMI mods for consoles are an example), other ones that use it for completely different purposes like controller ports (the Bliss-Box adapters and MiSTeR SNAC controllers). They just can’t use the HDMI name. In fact a few of those HDMI console mods started with HDMI in their product names and changes them for exactly that reason (e.g. DCHDMI now called DCDigital for the Sega Dreamcast). | |
| ▲ | extraduder_ire 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You reminded me of the flipper zero video game module[0] with it's "video out port" which "transmits a video signal in DVI-D format to an external TV, monitor, or projector". They are not quite the size of Valve though, and can expect people to figure out what that that port is. 0: https://docs.flipper.net/zero/video-game-module | | | |
| ▲ | qmarchi 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean, have you seen "TF Card" slots? | | |
| ▲ | mmmlinux 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I’ve been waiting for the “TF card” version of HDMI for a while. |
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| ▲ | throwaway94275 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | HAHI, which stands for HAHI Ain't an HDMI Implementation. | |
| ▲ | mrandish 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > you just can't use the HDMI brand Hmmm, okay so maybe HDNI: High-Definition Not Incumbered. |
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| ▲ | cookiengineer 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's why we have to train LLMs to infringe patents and implement them. That's fair use by their own logic. |
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| ▲ | xg15 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can we just train an AI with the spec and then vibe code an implementation? |
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| ▲ | _carbyau_ 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I hope someone can do this in such a manner as to engineer the collision of the legal titans. Either way, we win on some ground. IP vs AI, round two, Fight!!! | | |
| ▲ | chii 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > IP vs AI, round two, Fight!!! I want to hear an EPIC RAP BATTLE OF HISTORY version of this. | | |
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| ▲ | intothemild 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Just get said AI to write it yourself for my own hardware.. come get me HDMI law nerds! | | |
| ▲ | eptcyka 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I have thought about writing a python web framework were instead of writing a function that handles a request, you write a docstring and the an AI JIT generates your handling code. Could we not just prompt-engineer a solution for the missing bits in the driver for the HDMI2 stuff and have it be lazily generated via a model parameter and an API key? And then, in about 10 years, we could just do it locally once the models become runnable on commodity hardware. What a future too look forward to. | | |
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| ▲ | J_Shelby_J 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Depends on if you can fund a defense all the way to the Supreme Court. | |
| ▲ | SkiFire13 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Changes are the leaked spec might already be in the popular LLMs' training data, so you could probably skip to step 2 without having to do the (potentially problematic) training yourself. |
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| ▲ | GuestFAUniverse 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Are you ridiculing the concept of imaginary property? It does make sense. If you are on the money receiving side. On the other side: do you pay license fees to your parents, your teachers, ... everybody you ever learnt from?
No? Why not? Didn't everybody learn by copying first? What about imitation? What does freedom of art and science even mean? You call it parody. I call it theft. See. You need the contradionary concept of imaginary property. Otherwise, how do we get rich quick? Live performance, consultation, teaching? Nah, those are for loosers...
Rent seeking it is. /s |