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KaiserPro 3 days ago

> when I was a teenager the adults in my life were less concerned with protecting me from wrongthought

V-chip, movie ratings, music ratings, top shelf magazines, raising the age for smokes, the water shed, censorship of tv networks, chat rooms, computer in the living room, primitive walled gardens (AOL et al)

All of the "it was freer in my youth bollocks" is just that. Bollocks. But, I see that you like the idea of a person's social/sexual education being shaped by misanthropes looking to grift a new lifestlye for themselves regardless of the harm it causes others. All for profit and power. Not for betterment of the world.

> Are modern teenagers more or less credulous consumers of information than adults, I wonder.

The first example of something that you see is normally a big opinion former. If you see the local big city constantly portrayed at a lawless hell hole, its going to stick with you. As will the the race baiting, as will the utter bollocks herbal-remedy-cures-cancer 100% of the time shtick. Espeically if you've not got far enough through school to develop research skills, or critical thinking skills.

whimsicalism 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> All of the "it was freer in my youth bollocks" is just that. Bollocks. But, I see that you like the idea of a person's social/sexual education being shaped by misanthropes looking to grift a new lifestlye for themselves regardless of the harm it causes others. All for profit and power. Not for betterment of the world.

Uh, yeah - I never had to show an ID to use the internet and I could use the internet however I damn well pleased. "All for profit and power" -> No, I learned a lot from the internet, it changed my life in a positive way.

None of the things you mentioned are even remotely the same scope as requiring ID to use parts of the internet. I could still watch mature movies, v-chip was irrelevant in my life, smoking is completely different, etc. etc.

The answer to my question is that teenagers today are obviously less credulous than the adults in their lives and you can see this every time you interact with older adults.

poolnoodle 3 days ago | parent [-]

The parts of the internet that are now banned for Australian teenagers are unlikely to change their lives in a positive way and much more likely to lead them into mental illness.

whimsicalism 3 days ago | parent [-]

I taught myself advanced math as a middle schooler and high schooler on youtube, which is now illegal. Could they really not make it more targeted?

skydhash 3 days ago | parent [-]

I taught myself programming, drawing, and 3d modeling on the internet. But it was on platforms like SiteDuZero and various forums. Even today, if you go on something like https://bbs.archlinux.org , it's very hard to land on something like the cesspool the homepage of YouTube and X can be.

whimsicalism 3 days ago | parent [-]

there is lots of very good educational content that is only available on youtube.

rustystump 2 days ago | parent [-]

Behind the mountains of absolute brainrot. I agree. Yt has amazing content But the majority that trends is garbage

whimsicalism 2 days ago | parent [-]

well i’m sorry some kids (and adults) are idiots who enjoy brain rot, but i would have been pissed as a kid if the adults came for my intellectual communities because some kids are morons

protocolture 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

>All of the "it was freer in my youth bollocks" is just that. Bollocks. But, I see that you like the idea of a person's social/sexual education being shaped by misanthropes looking to grift a new lifestlye for themselves regardless of the harm it causes others. All for profit and power. Not for betterment of the world.

I remember logging on to Microsoft Networks, clicking "Adult Chatroom" and saying "Hi adults, my name is <blah> and I am 12" and getting a bunch of very positive, thoughtful replies.

>Espeically if you've not got far enough through school to develop research skills, or critical thinking skills.

Some of the people being banned include these nice kids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_News_Australia

Their founder is now 18, but most of their research and social media people are 14 - 16.

I feel like these kids A, have developed the necessary skills to operate the internet, and B, have a human right to access and report on the information contained within.

>a person's social/sexual education being shaped by misanthropes looking to grift

The grifting misanthropes are in my honest opinion the people trying to prevent kids from accessing information. The "grift" is that kids have political interests and rights to access information and community, especially vulnerable kids, and the grifters want to "return" to a state where parents were the only method via which kids can access information. The internet is there for among other things, censorship resistant access to other people. The cost of this bill, assuming kids don't just keep stepping over the barricade, is going to be tremendous in terms of suicide in LGBT and disabled areas.

So tell us, why do you hate kids so much?