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palata 3 days ago

So you're using many, many words to say that you disagree, and none of them to explain how you disagree?

I (not the person you're disagreeing with, BTW) would be interested in your demonstration of how you disagree.

shafoshaf 3 days ago | parent [-]

My takeaway is that jfindper is saying that seatbelt laws had a justification that does not have a parallel with this action regarding social media.

IDK if this is how they would say it, but I think argument for seatbelts is that there is minimum disruption to usage, there is limited revocation of other rights, and the societal benefit is large and pretty unambiguous.

The idea that I have to give up privacy, expose myself to additional risk (by having my identity logged), increase the chances that mentally susceptible people will have more exposure to fraud in order to get a solution that is not clear on how effective it will be makes the parallel a bit academic, if not an out right straw man.

palata 3 days ago | parent [-]

> I think argument for seatbelts is that there is minimum disruption to usage, there is limited revocation of other rights, and the societal benefit is large and pretty unambiguous.

Said like this, it looks to me that it has a parallel with social media.

> The idea that I have to give up privacy

You don't have to, though.

> expose myself to additional risk (by having my identity logged)

It doesn't have to be, we can have privacy-preserving age verification. Now we could discuss the specific implementation, but in general that's feasible.

> increase the chances that mentally susceptible people will have more exposure to fraud

It's not enough to say it: is it actually the case? You can already get phished by trying to access a social network, how does that make it worse? I don't think it's obvious. While the problem with kids and social media is, at this point, very well documented.

> if not an out right straw man.

I, for one, think it's an interesting experiment. All the arguments above could be used against making cigarettes illegal for children. Yet I am very convinced that making cigarettes illegal for children is the right choice.