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| ▲ | baq 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Echo chamber of rational, thoughtful and truthful speakers is what I’m looking for in Internet forums. |
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| ▲ | jrmg 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | That’s what everyone living in an echo chamber (and especially one of their own creation) thinks they’re in. | | |
| ▲ | baq 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't think I'm in any is my problem (HN is better than most, doesn't mean it's good in absolute terms...) | |
| ▲ | XorNot 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | "you're in an echo chamber" is one of the most frightfully overused opinions. | | |
| ▲ | ssl-3 2 days ago | parent [-] | | The expression is an echo chamber in and of itself; it is self-fulfilling prophecy. |
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| ▲ | red-iron-pine 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | flat earth creationists would describe their colleagues the same way. a group of them certainly is an echo chamber; why isn't your view? | | |
| ▲ | ahf8Aithaex7Nai 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | He doesn't deny that his point of view forms an echo chamber. | |
| ▲ | lukan a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "flat earth creationists would describe their colleagues the same way." Actually they mostly don't. Lots of infighting over the real true answer .. (infinite flat earth, finite but with impassable ice walls, ..) | |
| ▲ | xmprt 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | An echo chamber is a product of your own creation. If you're willing to upvote people who disagree with your and actively seek out opposite takes to be genuinely curious about, then you're probably not in an echo chamber. The tools for controlling your feed are reducing on social media like Instagram, TikTok, Youtube, etc., but simply saying that you follow and respect the opinions of a select group doesn't necessarily mean you're forming an echo chamber. This is different from something like flat earth/other conspiracy theories where when confronted with opposite evidence, they aren't likely to engage with it in good faith. |
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| ▲ | mistercheph 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| it depends on if you vote based on the quality of contribution to the discussion or based on how much you agree/disagree. |
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| ▲ | miki123211 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I don't think you can change user behavior like this. You can give them a "venting sink" though. Instead of having a downvote button that just downvotes, have it pop up a little menu asking for a downvote reason, with "spam" and "disagree" as options. You could then weigh downvotes by which option was selected, along with an algorithm to discover "user honesty" based on whether their downvotes correlate with others or just with the people on their end of the political spectrum, a la Birdwatch. | | |
| ▲ | morshu9001 a day ago | parent [-] | | You can't change it for other users, only for yourself, which is what the original comment about the extension said. |
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| ▲ | intended 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Echo chambers will always result on social media. I don't think you can come up with a format that will not result in consolidated blocs. |
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| ▲ | modeless 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Reddit's current structure very much produces an echo chamber with only one main prevailing view. If everyone used an extension like this I would expect it to increase overall diversity of opinion on the site, as things that conflict with the main echo chamber view could still thrive in their own communities rather than getting downvoted with the actual spam. |
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| ▲ | XorNot 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Hacker News structure is identical though. Topics invite different demographics and downvotes suppress unpopular opinions. The front page shows most up voted stories. It's the same system. | | |
| ▲ | modeless 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | HN's moderation and ranking is better. But there's definitely an echo chamber effect here too. | |
| ▲ | morshu9001 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | HN has some built-in ways to reduce this, like not allowing everyone to downvote everything. |
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| ▲ | PunchyHamster 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| More than having exact same system but with any random reader voting ? I'd say as long as you don't do "I disagree therefore I downvote" it would probably be more accurate than having essentially same voting system driven by randoms like reddit/HN already does |
