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ComputerGuru 3 days ago

> I also read somewhere (not Wikipedia) that they trained on ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini queries, basically feeding in the output of competitor’s LLMs as training data

All the labs permitting synthetic data do that.

rllearneratwork 3 days ago | parent [-]

pretty sure it is against ToS for ChatGPT, Claude and Gemini.

codedokode 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Did OpenAI observe any ToS when scraping content from the Internet? Sorry, but you cannot complain about stealing the stolen. OpenAI cannot even have the copyright on ChatGPT output, because it's a tool.

rhines 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

ToS didn't stop the companies that built those models and it won't stop the companies that bootstrap off them. Until an AI company eats a multi billion dollar lawsuit for unlawful data use they will continue to operate this way.

nandomrumber 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Didn’t Anthropic already eat a $1.5 billion lawsuit?

bluefirebrand 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Until an AI company eats a multi billion dollar lawsuit for unlawful data use they will continue to operate this way

If only. That's my dream, massive copyright lawsuits against all of these AI players and maybe the courts can do something good for a change, put an end to all of this AI bullshit

vkou 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's against my ToS for ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini to train their models on my writing, but they've all done that. They are free to pound sand.

BeFlatXIII 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Not the heckin' ToS!