I still think you're off the mark. Again, most existing Rust developers are not "blank slate Rust developers". That they do not rush out to rewrite all of their past projects in C++ may be more about sunk costs, and wanting to solve new problems with from-scratch development.

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debugnik 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> most existing Rust developers are not "blank slate Rust developers"

Not most, but the pool of software devs has been doubling every five years, and Rust matches C# on "Learning to Code" voters at Stack Overflow's last survey, which is crazy considering how many people learn C# just to use Unity. I think you underestimate how many developers are Rust blank slates.

Anecdotically, I've recently come across comments from people who've taught themselves Rust but not C or C++.

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gjajric 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Steve Klabnik?

Either way, that survey (you could have linked to it) has some issues.

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology#most-popular...

Select the "Learning to Code" tab.

> Which programming, scripting, and markup languages have you done extensive development work in over the past year, and which do you want to work in over the next year? (If you both worked with the language and want to continue to do so, please check both boxes in that row.)

It describes two check marks, yet only has a single statistic for each language. Did StackOverflow mess up the question or data?

The data also looks suspicious. Is it really the case that 44.6% of developers learning to code have worked with or want to work with C++?

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debugnik an hour ago | parent [-]

Oh I agree the survey has issues, I was just thinking about how each year the stats get more questionable! I just think it shows that interest in Rust doesn't come only from people with a C++ codebase to rewrite. Half of all devs have got less than five years of experience with any toolchain at all, let alone C++, yet many want to give Rust a try. I do think there will be a generational split there.

> Steve Klabnik?

Thankfully no. I've actually argued with him a couple times. Usually in partial agreement, but his fans will downvote anyone who mildly disagrees with him.

Also, I'm not even big on Rust: every single time I've tried to use it I instinctively reached for features that turned out to be unstable, and I don't want to deal with their churn, so I consider the language still immature.

	▲	gjajric2 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Steve Klabnik, why do you cite a survey, and then turn around in the next post and begin to be skeptical about that survey?

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mmooss 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's fair; my claims are kept simplistic for purposes of space and time. However, I'm talking about new projects, not rewriting legacy code.