| ▲ | godelski 14 hours ago |
| Hard to say but to back his claim that he was programming since the 90's his CV shows he was working on stuff that's clearly more than your basic undergraduate skill level since the early 2000's. I'd be willing to bet he has more years under his belt than most HN users. I mean I'm considered old here, in my mid 30's, and this guy has been programming most my life. Though that doesn't explicitly imply experience, or more specifically experience in what. That said, I think people really under appreciate how diverse programmers actually are. I started in physics and came over when I went to grad school. While I wouldn't expect a physicist to do super well on leetcode problems I've seen those same people write incredible code that's optimized for HPC systems and they're really good at tracing bottlenecks (it's a skill that translates from physics really really well). Hell, the best programmer I've ever met got that way because he was doing his PhD in mechanical engineering. He's practically the leading expert in data streaming for HPC systems and gained this skill because he needed more performance for his other work. There's a lot of different types of programmers out there but I think it's too easy to think the field is narrow. |
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| ▲ | mikewarot 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| >I'm considered old here, in my mid 30's I'm 62, and I'm not old yet, you're just a kid. ;-) Seriously, there are some folks here who started on punch cards and/or paper tape in the 1960s. |
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| ▲ | wombatpm 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I played with punch cards and polystyrene test samples from the Standard Oil Refinery where my father worked in the early 70’s and my first language after basic was Fortran 77. Not old either. | |
| ▲ | freeopinion 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 30 years ago my coworkers called me Grandpa, so I get it both ways. | |
| ▲ | godelski 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thanks. I meant is more of in a joking way, poking fun at the community. I know I'm far too young to earn a gray beard, but I hope to in the next 20-30 years ;-) I still got a lot to learn till that happens | | |
| ▲ | Aeolun 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | You wish, that gray beard sometimes appears in your late thirties. | | |
| ▲ | godelski 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Maybe. But also what I though was a gray beard in my early 20's is very different from what I think a gray beard is now. The number of those I've considered wizards decreased, and I think this should be true for most people. It's harder to differentiate experts as a novice, but as you get closer the resolution increases. | | |
| ▲ | jader201 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | The more I know, the more I know I don’t know. | | |
| ▲ | popcorncowboy 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | ...and the more I know you don't know. [On the disappearance of wizards as you age] | | |
| ▲ | godelski 44 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Both definitely contribute. But at the same time the people who stay wizards (and the people you realize are wizards but didn't previously) only appear to be more magical than ever. Some magic tricks are unimpressive when you know how they are done. But that's not true for all of them. Some of them only become more and more impressive, only truly being able to be appreciated by other masters. The best magic tricks don't just impress an audience, they impress an audience of magicians. |
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| ▲ | pjmlp 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My first home computer was bought in 1986, before that the only electronics at home were Game & Watch handhelds, like Manhole. I guess I am reaching Gandalf status then. :) |
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| ▲ | anthk 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| 38 there. If you didn't suffer Win9x's 'stability', then editing X11 config files by hand, getting mad with ALSA/Dmix, writing new ad-hoc drivers for weird BTTV tuners reusing old known ones for $WEIRDBRAND, you didn't live. |
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| ▲ | AceJohnny2 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > I mean I'm considered old here, in my mid 30's sigh |
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| ▲ | bojo 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I feel like a grandpa after reading that comment now. | |
| ▲ | jjgreen 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I got a coat older than that (and in decent nick). | | |
| ▲ | LgWoodenBadger 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | I used to tell the “kids” that I worked with that I have a bowling ball older than them. | | |
| ▲ | wombatpm 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I was greeted with blank stares by the kids on my team when they wanted to rewrite an existing program from scratch, and I said that will work for as well as it did with Netscape. Dang whippersnappers | |
| ▲ | anthk 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I own 90's comic books and video games older than most Gen-Z users in HN. |
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| ▲ | godelski 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But am I wrong? I am joking, but good jokes have an element of truth... | | |
| ▲ | omnicognate 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Depends what you mean by "old". If you mean elderly then obviously you're not. If you mean "past it" then it might reassure you to know the average expecting mother is in her 30s now (in the UK). Even if you just mean "grown up", recent research [1] on brain development identifies adolescence as typically extending into the early thirties, with (brain) adulthood running from there to the mid sixties before even then only entering the "early aging" stage. For my part, I'm a lot older than you and don't consider myself old. Indeed, I think prematurely thinking of yourself as old can be a pretty bad mistake, health-wise. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-65974-8 | | |
| ▲ | godelski 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | FWIW I doubt I'd consider you old were I to know your actual age. I still think I'm quite young | | |
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| ▲ | xupybd 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I assume you're on the younger end | | | |
| ▲ | AceJohnny2 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It'd be interesting the know the median age of HN commenters. I guess the median age of YCombinator cohorts is <30 ? |
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