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quesera 15 hours ago

There was a time when EV certificates were considered more trustworthy than DV certs. Browsers used to show an indication for EV certs.

Those days are long gone, and I'm not completely sure how I feel about it. I hated the EV renewal/rotation process, so definitely a win on the day-to-day scale, but I still feel like something was lost in the transition.

hk1337 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This was the only objection I had gotten about using letsencrypt 6 years ago but that guy is gone and now we either have letsencrypt or AWS certificates

trueismywork 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What about OV?

ekr____ 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's never been clear to me what the rationale for OV was, as the UI wasn't even different like EV was.

quesera 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've never seen (noticed) an OV cert in real life, and no business I've ever been responsible for pushed for OV over DV. It was always EV or "huh?"

bostik 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think I've seen one or two, and only because I noticed them as a weird callout in a $LARGE_FINANCE_INSTITUTION infosec bingo sheet. Of course I had to check that they really were running with OV certs.

Some of the outfits in that space will be heavily hit by the shortening certificate max-lifetimes, and I do hope that the insurance companies at some point also stop demanding a cert rotation before 90 days to expiry. It's a weird feeling to redline a corporate insurance policy when their standard requirements are 15 years out of date.

quesera 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> when their standard requirements are 15 years out of date

I swear half of my "compensating control" responses are just extended versions of "policy requirement is outdated or was always bad".

crote 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I do hope that the insurance companies at some point also stop demanding a cert rotation before 90 days to expiry

It's not like you have a lot of choices when certificates are only valid for 47 days in 2029!

Sesse__ 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Before LE, we did lots of OV (which you generally could get a couple of for free from somewhere). We had to dig up stuff like a heating bill, because evidently that is proof of organizational control to some people.