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| ▲ | afandian 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | iOS has recently added a ”trigger voice recorder” to the swipe-down screen from the lock screen. It takes a random length of time to start recording. But it’s always too long. And it’s unreliable. This would be much more convenient. Though I’m not sure the battery situation would convince me. | |
| ▲ | eichin 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If I could press one button (and not unlock the phone) I would; my samsung even has an extra wasted button (the "bixby" button) but it isn't reconfigurable. (Still fails for the "while driving" case but I'd be using it the rest of the time) | | | |
| ▲ | mikestew 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The cellphone that’s buried in my handbag? I think you missed the expressed use case (admittedly, a few paragraphs into TFA): ”Before, I would take my phone out of my pocket to jot these down, but I couldn’t always do that (eg, while bicycling). I also wanted to start using my phone less, especially in front of my kids.” | | |
| ▲ | spike021 19 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | as I wondered in another comment, the button may not always be facing your thumb. so then you'd need to keep fiddling with it anyway. | | |
| ▲ | ddoeth 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's still easier to turn around a ring than to fiddle with a a phone. And more legal as well, no laws against rotating a ring while rinding your bike. That's fully haptic, no is drawn from traffic for that. |
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| ▲ | wing-_-nuts 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "Hey google, make a note: ..." I just tried it, and it worked flawlessly. Now, obviously it's not great for privacy per se, but I'm not jotting down my plans for world domination or anything | |
| ▲ | Fnoord 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Stop using your phone less in front of your kids. Start using your ring/watch/whatever_else more in front of your kids. Honestly, it isn't about what you use (that is just hype). You can read the paper all day if you want. I grew up with a father who was listening to radio and watching TV all the time (to be fair: he was disabled, including legally blind). It isn't about using your phone less in front of your kids. It is about being there for your kids when they need you; showing genuine interest in your kids; interacting with them. Right now, as I am writing this to you, my kids are watching Peppa Pig before bedtime. Instead of writing this, I could sit next to them and watch an episode with them. As for cycling, with a ring you'd have to move your hand towards you or not, but it isn't much different compared to a watch, except perhaps when you'd wear a sweater over your watch. It is also very typical that in-ear buds are expensive, small, yet hard to repair because the battery isn't user replaceable. And guess what, exactly the same for this device. Apart from the yet another device with microphone (24/7 on, I suppose) and Bluetooth (the wireless spaghetti protocol) and it not being user serviceable the device costs 100 USD. For such a price, I expect it to last longer than two years. I mean, I'm sick of devices lasting only a few years. I wouldn't need yet another one. TL;DR hard pass, do better. | | |
| ▲ | 47282847 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Instead of writing this, I could sit next to them and watch an episode with them. And as any study into the effects of parental attention and shared experience will show that kind of behavior would be beneficial to their overall long-term mental health. Requiring them to make themselves heard and to actively “disturb you“ is a very high barrier for children to break through (even if you don’t consider it a disturbance). Children need active mirroring and external guidance when it comes to their needs in order to develop a healthy sense for them. They are “left alone“ as soon as you leave the shared emotional space. | |
| ▲ | wkat4242 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Apart from the yet another device with microphone (24/7 on, I suppose) and Bluetooth Considering the tiny non-rechargeable battery I can guarantee it's not on 24/7 because then it would literally last a day :) Unlike a smartphone which often does listen for a wake word all day without much impact on battery life, this really couldn't. | |
| ▲ | cxr 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The remarks in this comment can only come from a gross misunderstanding of what many people mean when they talk about avoiding use of their phones around their kids. Almost every sentence reveals a very me-focused outlook. > It isn't about using your phone less in front of your kids. It is about being there for your kids when they need you That's a very narrow conception if the problem—it isn't solely about being "there" for them or trying to get control over (and maintain control over) one's own addictions. The main thing that people have an issue with when they talk about kids and phone use (and TV for that matter) is addiction observed in the kids themselves. It's absolutely about using one's own phone less while they're around as a means of quashing overexposure. You can show as much genuine interest in them as you want, and it doesn't change anything, because whether the kids feel like the parent is "there for them" not the problem that a parent is is already genuinely interested in them is concerned about and trying to address. > As for cycling, with a ring you'd have to move your hand towards you or not, but it isn't much different compared to a watch, except perhaps when you'd wear a sweater over your watch. "Not much" except that the fingers that are attached to the hand that's attached to the wrist where you're wearing your watch certainly aren't capable of reaching back to press a button on said watch. > Apart from the yet another device with microphone (24/7 on, I suppose) The folks in this thread are really committed to just plucking things out of thin air and acting on foregone conclusions, huh? | | |
| ▲ | Fnoord 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | You supposedly speak for masses and claim I am having some exceptional, unique look but you don't cite anything to support your claim. > That's a very narrow conception if the problem—it isn't solely about being "there" for them or trying to get control over (and maintain control over) one's own addictions. The main thing that people have an issue with when they talk about kids and phone use (and TV for that matter) is addiction observed in the kids themselves. It's absolutely about using one's own phone less while they're around as a means of quashing overexposure. > You can show as much genuine interest in them as you want, and it doesn't change anything, because whether the kids feel like the parent is "there for them" not the problem that a parent is is already genuinely interested in them is concerned about and trying to address. I grew up with my father who was really hip. He didn't use his smartphone much. Sometimes, he did this weird thing. Out of nowhere, he'd comment about something seemingly unrelated to the discussion. I didn't understand what he was yapping at. At first, I thought he was talking to mom. One time, I noticed he did it when mom was upstairs. At one point, I thought dad was having imaginary friends. Turns out, dad had this smart ring he'd use to record notes. One day, the ring was gone. Gone from his finger. I guess it broke, or something. IOW, replacing one tool with another, you can't fool people. If social media distracts you, remove it from your smartphone, or limit the exposure to it. My wife when she is done with cooking, regularly uses her smartphone after that when we are eating. Usually to fill in about groceries. We're not overly strict on that, and we don't expect our kids to be strict on it when they got a smartphone later on. But it is about proportion. Using it for a short amount of time is perfectly possible. If you want to have a 'no tech' rule during dinner, fine, but then also smart rings. If you want to allow certain specific tasks, a technical barrier like a smart ring versus a smartphone can work, yes. But you can also decide to limit yourself whilst using your smartphone. IMO that starts with uninstalling all kind of BS apps you don't need, and removing notifications you don't require. Either way, the bottom line is this: the ring doesn't solve the issue of distractions on smartphones. It tries to mitigate the issue. So whenever you do use your smartphone, you are still suffering from the issue. > "Not much" except that the fingers that are attached to the hand that's attached to the wrist where you're wearing your watch certainly aren't capable of reaching back to press a button on said watch. This is true, it isn't hands-free, hands-free is superior. Although a device on the bike also works well. You can buy such a tool right now to attach your smartphone to your bike, and it'll last for more than two years. It is a matter of moving your hand once to the other one to enable the mic. A Pebble, too, you can replace the battery yourself and I absolutely despise all these smartwatches where you cannot. |
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| ▲ | wkat4242 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm sure it won't be able to handle wind noise well (it doesn't look big enough to have multiple microphones) so you'd have to stop the bicycle to make a good recording. Might as well grab the phone then. | | |
| ▲ | cxr 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yet another retort addressed directly in the post: > Raw audio playback: Very helpful if STT doesn’t work perfectly due to wind or loud background noises | | |
| ▲ | wkat4242 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes I know but I doubt it will capture much at all when there's significant wind noise, even enough to understand by ear without STT. A friend of mine has her phone on her handlebars in a gps mount and she sends me voice messages through her bluetooth headset and those are hardly intelligible. A hand on the handlebar would be even further from the mouth. And those are pretty good ones with multiple microphones. |
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| ▲ | papyrus9244 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That sounds like the perfect thing to do while I'm driving. | |
| ▲ | lopis 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why stop there? Why use your phone at all? Just go visit your mum instead of calling... Sorry the sarcasm, but not everything should need you to take your phone, unlock, get distracted, open social media on a reflex and forget what you were doing in the first place. | | |
| ▲ | Fnoord 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Get distracted? I mean, are you American? Have you ever looked around you in traffic? Look at all these billboards and bullshit and tell me about distraction. If you are on a mission you do not open your social media. People do so due to boredom, I guess. The sensible thing to do is... stop using social media. Aside from that, let us assume you won't stop with that (after all, it is free!). Smartphones have a driving mode which you can set, setting them on DnD. I take my smartphone out of my pocket when I wait before a traffic light, and that works, but I only do so when I need to and what I certainly do not need to do at that point is have a look at Facebook or Twitter. I also don't have Bluetooth on 24/7 on my smartphone (one reason being tracking concerns). On a Pebble watch, I can put this off. Sadly a software killswitch, but better than nothing. |
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| ▲ | supern0va 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | ...and face the seductive allure of all those delicious notifications trying to get me to task switch to a bunch of other things? No, sir. I'm pretty much on board with anything that reduces the number of times I need to light up that phone screen. | | |
| ▲ | PoisedProto 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, you could just turn off unnecessary notifications like I do, same with emails. I get like 3 notifications a day on average now, and most of those are just dms from friends. | | |
| ▲ | supern0va 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | I do, aggressively. Honestly, the messages from friends are the hardest to ignore/defer. That's why I also have a highly tedious DND schedule. That aside, there's also far more friction to pull out a device, turn it on, unlock it, then open an app. |
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