Not sure how I feel about it being a throwaway device for $100. I get they say you can send it back to be recycled, but this feels like you’re just proactively creating e-waste.

Not even an attempt to make a replaceable or chargeable battery?

Also they point out oura rings need to be charged every few days, but that’s because they’re constantly chewing through battery monitoring your health stats. I’m willing to bet if they were in a constant state of deep sleep and only woken up to record short audio clips they’d also last for months at a time.

I know folks around here love pebble, but this feels like a miss to me.

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nebulous1 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Their Oura comparison really didn't sit well with me because of that. The device clearly uses a fraction of the power that the Oura is using. If it had a rechargeable battery you would not have to charge it that frequently.

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whitehexagon 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed. Brave to launch disposable tech with the current environmental awareness. e-waste in 12-15hours, when people are pushing for more and more for repairable devices just feels very out of touch.

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eloisant 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I know exactly how I feel: I'll never buy a disposable electronic device.

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SecretDreams 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> No charging: The battery lasts for up to years of average use. After the end of its life, send your ring back to us for recycling.

That's a pretty long life, TBF. I appreciate your concerns, though, and do wonder if there was a better middle ground (maybe a micro sterling engine leveraging the heat gradient from my finger to ambient, ha!).

People are buying Fitbit charge6 products today and those probably have an 18 shelf life and cost more.. so maybe it's not totally left field - although the charge6 isn't advertised to fail so soon lol.

	▲	nebulous1 20 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That lifespan is based on the user recording for 12 to 15 hours over those two years. It's a $100 device that can record 12 hours of audio and then you throw it away. You could expend the battery on your first day by holding down the button. Honestly I can see a niche use but this device strikes me as quite weird and I'm not sure why it isn't a button on their new watch.

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micromacrofoot 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

this is a device that would potentially last years though, not months — if you're in the niche of needing something like this you're paying less than $10 a month (maybe as low as $5)... doesn't net out too terribly in exchange for not charging

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amarcheschi 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We did it guys, we made physical devices usable only if you treat them as a SaaS otherwise you're sol when battery runs out

	▲	micromacrofoot 17 hours ago \| parent [-]
		that's a pretty lame take, all I did was break down the cost to the lifespan of the device it's useful to think of a lot of things this way, I also justify clothing purchases on a rough estimate of cost per wear

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tw04 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Right, and an Oura would be usable for a decade because it has a rechargeable battery.

	▲	micromacrofoot 17 hours ago \| parent [-]
		sure but the Oura does a bunch of unrelated stuff specific to health and also has to be charged twice a week? they're not even comparable products

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pants2 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The ring weighs approximately 1/1000th what a MacBook pro does. If it really lasts for years it's a tiny, tiny amount of e-waste.

	▲	myaccountonhn 19 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Every company should be responsible for the lifecycle of their product, big or small. You can't just point fingers at others. How much of it is even recyclable?
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