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pjmlp 2 days ago

I beg to differ, given the engineering effort that went into JVM across various Java vendors, versus Apple and NeXT have done.

Proven by the fact that Swift had to be invented, as there was nothing left to fix Objective-C in a proper way.

saagarjha 2 days ago | parent [-]

Swift has that runtime, by the way.

pjmlp 2 days ago | parent [-]

Nope, Swift interops with Objective-C runtime to ease code migration from legacy Objective-C code, and existing Apple frameworks predating Swift.

A runtime that isn't part of the cross-platform Swift project, with missing functionality being rewriten into Swift.

saagarjha 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, and those platforms are worse off for it.