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gardnr 5 hours ago

I love lightweight distros. QNX had a "free as in beer" distro that fit on a floppy, with Xwindows and modem drivers. After years of wrangling with Slackware CDs, it was pretty wild to boot into a fully functional system from a floppy.

Someone 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> QNX had a "free as in beer" distro that fit on a floppy, with Xwindows and modem drivers.

I don’t think that had the X Windows system. https://web.archive.org/web/19991128112050/http://www.qnx.co... and https://marc.info/?l=freebsd-chat&m=103030933111004 confirm that. It ran the Photon microGUI Windowing System (https://www.qnx.com/developers/docs/6.5.0SP1.update/com.qnx....)

Beijinger 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Somebody has build it: https://membarrier.wordpress.com/2017/04/12/qnx-7-desktop/

ddalex 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I never understood how that QNX desktop didn't pick up instanntly, it was amazing !

Joel_Mckay 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Licensing, and QNX missed a consumer launch window by around 17 years.

Some businesses stick with markets they know, as non-retail customer revenue is less volatile. If you enter the consumer markets, there are always 30k irrational competitors (likely with 1000X the capital) that will go bankrupt trying to undercut the market.

It is a decision all CEO must make eventually. Best of luck =3

"The Rules for Rulers: How All Leaders Stay in Power"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

api 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This also underscores my explanation for the “worse is better” phenomenon: worse is free.

Stuff that is better designed and implemented usually costs money and comes with more restrictive licenses. It’s written by serious professionals later in their careers working full time on the project, and these are people who need to earn a living. Their employers also have to win them in a competitive market for talent. So the result is not and cannot be free (as in beer).

But free stuff spreads faster. It’s low friction. People adopt it because of license concerns, cost, avoiding lock in, etc., and so it wins long term.

Yes I’m kinda dissing the whole free Unix thing here. Unix is actually a minimal lowest common denominator OS with a lot of serious warts that we barely even see anymore because it’s so ubiquitous. We’ve stopped even imagining anything else. There were whole directions in systems research that were abandoned, though aspects live on usually in languages and runtimes like Java, Go, WASM, and the CLR.

Also note that the inverse is not true. I’m not saying that paid is always better. What I’m saying is they worse is free, better was usually paid, but some crap was also paid. But very little better stuff was free.

rzerowan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There is also the option by well written professional wherer the startergy is to grab as much market share as they can by allowing the proliferation of their product to lockup market/mindshare and rleaget the $ enforcement for later - successfully used by MSWindows for the longest time and Photoshop .

Conversly i remenber Maya or Autodesk used to have a bounty program for whoever would turn in people using unlicensed/cracked versions of their product.Meanwhile Blender (from a commercial past) kept their free nature and have connsistently grown in popularity and quality without any such overtures.

Of course nowadays with Saas everything get segmented into wierd verticals and revenue upsells are across the board with the first hit usually also being free.

Joel_Mckay 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

As a business, dealing with Microsoft and Oracle is not a clean transactional sale.

They turned into legal-service-firms along the way, and stopped real software development/risk at some point in 2004.

These firms have been selling the same product for decades. Yet once they get their hooks into a business, few survive the incurred variable costs of the 3000lb mosquito. =3

Joel_Mckay 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The only reason FOSS sometime works was because the replication cost is almost $0.

In *nix, most users had a rational self-interest to improve the platform. "All software is terrible, but some of it is useful." =3

knowitnone3 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

because it's not free and their aim was at developers and the embedded space. How many people have even heard of QNX?

anyfoo 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That famous QNX boot disk was the first thing I thought of when reading the title as well.

taylodl 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Me too! And the GUI was only a 40KB distribution and was waaaaaay better than Windows 3.0!

jacquesm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And incredibly responsive compared to the operatings systems of even today. Imagine that: 30 years of progress to end up behind where we were. Human input should always run at the highest priority in the system, not the lowest.

knowitnone3 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

yeah but what can you do with free QNX? With tinycore, you can install many packages. What packages exist for QNX?