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fullofideas 5 hours ago

>Combine it with China's nuclear base and labor pool. And the cherry on top, America will train 600k Chinese students as Trump agreed to.

I dont understand this part. What has nuclear base got to do with chip manufacturing? And surely, not all 600k students are learning chip design or stealing plans

dylanowen 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I assume the nuclear reactors are to power the data centers using the new chips. There have been a few mentions on HN about the US being very behind in building enough power plants to run LLM workloads

mr_toad an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The frenetic pace of data center construction in the US means that nuclear is not a short-term option. No way are they going to wait a decade or more for generation to come on line. It’s going to be solar, batteries, and gas (turbines, and possibly fuel cells).

renewiltord 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We should ask ourselves: is it worth ruining local communities in order to beat China in the global sphere?

pstuart 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

That question was asked and answered years ago and the answer is YES (not me personally, but the people in charge)

There are things about China not to be celebrated but one cannot help but admire the way that they invest in their country as a whole. The US is all about "what's in it for me".

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pixl97 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nuclear power is what they are talking about, not weapons.

alecco 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean they have the power grid to run TPUs at 10x the scale of USA.

About students, have you seen the microelectronic labs in American universities lately? A huge chunk are Chinese already. Same with some of the top AI labs.

tormeh 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Thankfully LLMs are a dead end, so nobody will make it to AGI by just throwing more electricity at the problem. Now if we could only have a new AI winter we could postpone the end of mankind as the dominant species on earth by another couple of decades.