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Timon3 2 hours ago

I'm not sure where some of these "contradictions" come from, as I e.g. can't find anything about them having "redesigned the desktop" on the page with those keywords. But for the rest, I don't see how they are contradictory - at least if you've spent a few seconds to understand them.

> Such as their claim that updates are a “single iso”

Updates literally are a "single image" (didn't see "iso" mentioned). Where is the contradiction?

> and also their claim about a single App Store, and they then go on to discuss flatpak and homebrew package management.

There literally is a single app store. Homebrew is not used to install apps, only for CLI tools. Flatpak is the single app store which users use to install apps (through Bazaar). Where is the contradiction?

> And there’s also the claims that it brings something totally new while then going on to describe core Linux features.

Can you explain what exactly you're referring to?

> Also the scripts running “non intrusively” yet that’s just what you’d expect any seasoned admin to do. This isn’t a headline feature unless you’re new to the game.

This distribution isn't targeted at "seasoned admins", so why wouldn't they mention something relevant to their target group? No contradiction here.

hnlmorg an hour ago | parent [-]

> on the page with those keywords

Yeah I was typing from memory on phone. So the citations aren’t going to be verbatim.

> Updates literally are a "single image" (didn't see "iso" mentioned). Where is the contradiction?

Because that’s not how homebrew works. And you can’t have a single image if you’re expecting people to install apps via their multiple different endorsed delivery mechanisms.

> There literally is a single app store. Homebrew is not used to install apps, only for CLI tools. Flatpak is the single app store which users use to install apps (through Bazaar). Where is the contradiction?

Because an App Store is ostensibly just a package manager. I get they’re making a distinction between desktop apps and CLI (homebrew does GUI apps too by the way), but when their emphasis is on “easy” and “one way to do things”, having two different ways to install apps contradicts their mission statement.

If they actually cared about this mission statement AND had half the competence they claim, they’d build a unified UI that supports all use cases rather than expect people to learn those different tools and why it matters that they’re different.

> Can you explain what exactly you're referring to?

“Aurora is a paradigm shift for Linux. To rethink the Linux Desktop experience from the ground up, we built Aurora on new technology and principles.”

Bazaar, Plasma, homebrew, etc. none of this is unique to Thor distribution.

They also boast about being able to rollback updates. That isn’t new to Linux either. Though I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they’ve created a smoother default experience here.

> This distribution isn't targeted at "seasoned admins", so why wouldn't they mention something relevant to their target group? No contradiction here.

i didn’t say thy are targeting seasoned admins. I said seasoned admins would take for granted that’s how you’d write that code. So wouldn’t even consider it something to announce.

The only reason you’d announce it would be because you hadn’t worked in this space before and feel a sense of achievement doing the bloody obvious. (And to be clear, I have zero issue with people having projects like these to learn new skills)

Also, I clearly didn’t say “literally everything was a contradiction.”

I am interested who you think this is targeting. Because they do specifically say this is for developers (amongst other people). And the reason they give (VSCode) is a pretty noob argument. If you can’t figure out how to install an IDE then you’re clearly tech savvy enough to be a developer.

inffy 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

the updates being a single image has nothing to do with homebrew. The OS is a single image that gets updated, that 100% the same that every user will get daily or weekly (depending on what branch/stream you are on).

Homebrew or flatpaks don't pollute the base image