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gtowey 4 hours ago

Life is so insane right now that mental illness is the only rational response.

InsideOutSanta 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, I think it's very easy to say that "life being stressful is not an illness." In reality, life is often stressful in ways that can very much lead to mental illness, particularly in a society that drastically values corporate success over human well-being.

lostmsu an hour ago | parent [-]

Do you have any data to back that up?

chneu 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hard disagree. I think we're convinced life is way harder than it is.

Life is fucking easy. One push ordering for almost anything. Cushy houses with hvac.

We make life hard by buying into the narrative that it's hard and we're all helpless. This cheats us out of our development and ability to handle real conflict.

alchemist1e9 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Global poverty at 100-year lows, US murder rate half the 90s, you’re more likely to die from obesity than starvation or violence. Objectively the cushiest moment in human history.

Yet “mental illness is the only rational response.”

Happiness = Reality − Expectations

Most of material Reality is fine. The part of Reality that’s broken is spiritual/emotional. The expectations causing unhappiness aren’t for more money or stuff, they’re subconscious, millions of years deep, baked into the species of tribe, offspring, transcendence, cosmic order.

Leftism spent half a century screaming that those instincts are bigotry, that family is oppression, that religion is a mental illness, that wanting roots or rituals or a legacy is fascism.

You can’t propagandize the human soul out of its own operating system. The subconscious still demands what it demanded in 200,000 BC. We just demolished every institution that used to answer the call and replaced them with therapy, porn, and corporate pride slogans.

That’s the real insanity. Not climate change or late-stage capitalism. The soul shows up for duty and the building’s condemned.

baubino 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Global poverty at 100-year lows, US murder rate half the 90s, you’re more likely to die from obesity than starvation or violence. Objectively the cushiest moment in human history.

Averages are just that - averages. They say nothing about any given individual’s experience. And probabilities aren’t assurances of a particular outcome. Just because the average person is more likely to face obesity than starvation doesn’t mean that there aren’t millions of people facing starvation in the world. Your argument is based on an incorrect use of statistics.

alchemist1e9 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

We can use deciles and the story is the same. I was just keeping it simple and my use of statistics for my point is fine.

The bottom decile in all western countries has a objectively better material conditions yet I don’t dispute they may feel less “Happiness” which the formula explains and if you drill into the components of Reality which are causing the unhappiness and it’s absolutely non-material as I explained.

baal80spam an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Very well said, thank you for this. I would add though, that money (or lack thereof) causes unhapiness as well, because people want to live how "they" live on Instagram, and they can't.

alchemist1e9 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

Instagram moved expectations up significantly for a large portion of global populations so yes what you say is absolutely true but isn’t the Reality part but the Expectations part of the Happiness formula.

heddelt 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Very well said. It's little wonder that nationalism and fascism are on the rise. Nature is healing.