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| ▲ | ffsm8 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I admittedly did not, initially. I did now and am even more certain it's made up now. I'm not sure how anyone can honestly think this is a person talking about their family. This is like a textbook made believe story people have been doing since Reddit got popular in early 2010s. For this story to be real, you'll have to add a fourth and fifth circle to the diagram with a family member being close enough to the person suffering from the illness to be confided in and being so karma hungry to utilize their personal story which is likely shameful to them for going viral on Reddit. | | |
| ▲ | bonoboTP 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Another circle for the Venn diagram is that the schizophrenic sister's name happens to be Carol, the same as the name in the ad shown on the fridge. Obviously made up. | | |
| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > the schizophrenic sister's name happens to be Carol ...
Obviously made up. Why? because no-ones' sister is ever called "Carol" ? Or because people of that name don't get schizophrenia? I consider myself sane, but if I saw a billboard addressing me by name, I would do a double-take at least. I can easily understand how it would have an impact and look like a schizophrenic symptom. The TV show advert with that text actually does exist, I've seen it. Given that, what are the odds that some day a) it is seen, b) by someone called Carol, c) who is susceptible to being affected by it. I would say substantial. We don't know the truth of this at all. | | |
| ▲ | wiseowise 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Somehow it all happened just in time to coincide with the release of this big show: Samsung rolling out ads(a big story in its own), Pluberis (or whatever the name of the show) from the creator of the Breaking Bad on Apple TV, schizophrenic sister that is named Carol. Totally NOT made up. Not related at all, but I have this very exciting business idea – you can make billions, can you contact me via email in my bio? Not a scam, 100%. | | |
| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > schizophrenic sister that is named Carol. Name matches will happen regardless of the name chosen for a fictional person. "named Carol" specifically vs other names is an irrelevance. You put too much on it. > Totally NOT made up. Once more for the hard of reading, I refer you to what I said earlier, "We don't know the truth of this at all." > but I have this very exciting business idea – you can make billions, It looks to me like you want to rant people you have invented, who hold positions that I do not. I'm sorry that you can't parse nuance, but I think I'll keep the sceptical lack of faith in your position that I used earlier. | | |
| ▲ | wiseowise 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Once more for the hard of reading, I refer you to what I said earlier, "We don't know the truth of this at all." I’m still awaiting your email, good luck! | | |
| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom an hour ago | parent [-] | | > I’m still awaiting your email, Then you failed to read and understand what I wrote at all. And so there is no point in further written conversation. Good day. |
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| ▲ | mikkupikku 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Carol is a very uncommon name, it was last popular in the 40s and 50s so almost every Carol you find today will be in an old folk's home. The odds of two truly independent instances of somebody named Carol appearing in this manner of circumstance is extremely small. Edit: https://www.babynameatlas.com/name/carol Also, it came from reddit therefore it is fake. Reddit is a dumpster fire, if we're being generous it's a website for playing around with creative writing exercises. The not so generous interpretation is that reddit users are deranged internet point addicts who habitually lie to get their fix. | | |
| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > it came from reddit therefore it is fake This level of simple assurance is for simpletons. You and I don't know the truth of it and can't be sure based on "it's from reddit". I'm sorry that not being sure is hard for you. > The odds of two truly independent instances of somebody named Carol appearing in this manner of circumstance What on earth are you talking about? There there are not "two people named Carol appearing in this manner." The first is the protagonist of a sci-fi show. You know, a fictional person. There is 1 - count them, one, supposed victim appearing in this manner. Which is possible regardless of the name chosen for the show and ad. | | |
| ▲ | mikkupikku an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > "This level of simple assurance is for simpletons. You and I don't know the truth of it and can't be sure based on "it's from reddit". I'm sorry that not being sure is hard for you." I respectfully disagree with your dismissal. Reasonable heuristics are necessary to get through life without getting lost in hours of deep dives into any random shit you hear. Anyway, the mere fact that the fridges have ads of any sort at all is reason enough to never buy one, I don't need to also believe some redditor's karma seeking tall tale. | | |
| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom 7 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Reasonable heuristics are necessary to get through life without getting lost in hours of deep dives into any random shit you hear. And I respectfully disagree with that. Firstly, I have my own opinions on reddit and I don't find your simple ones persuasive. But more importantly, you make a leap from "We don't know the truth of it and can't be sure" to "getting lost in hours of deep dives" (to establish certainty) which IMHO just does not follow nor is it productive. You can decide that you don't know, that you do not need to have an authoritative opinion on the topic, and leave it at that. There are a lots of things that you and I don't have certainty on, and never will. Most of them are not important to us. Deep dives might or might not be worth it, but you present choosing a side as the only alternative and it is not. Again, I'm sorry that not being sure is hard for you. But it's a useful thing to do. > I don't need to also believe some redditor's karma seeking tall tale. I don't think I ever said that I believe it as certainty. The amount of "black or white", all or nothing, no-nuance, no doubt, "if you say you're not convinced of x, then you must be trying to convince everyone of not-x" thinking here is frankly pathological. |
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| ▲ | ohhellnawman an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | da_grift_shift 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's layers of fake! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46173339 (And yes: the karma farmers are either deranged addicts or warming up accounts for onward sale.) |
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| ▲ | nsoqm 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s anti-tech rhetoric so it works well here in HN. That’s the entire purpose of it. Not to say ads on fridges aren’t stupid. But they are stupid enough by themselves; they don’t have to make up stories about them. |
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| ▲ | testdelacc1 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah so this hypothetical sister doesn’t work, lives by themself, is severely disabled by schizophrenia but at the same time can afford a £2000 fridge. That’s a crazy amount of money to splash for someone who doesn’t work. Especially as amazing fridges are sold for £600-800. Oh, on top of all that, the persons name is Carol. It wouldn’t have worked with any other name. I don’t think the story is real. But people who want it to be true are easily convinced. | | |
| ▲ | harvey9 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Might have wealthy relatives or a trust fund. I agree with you that this is probably made-up anyway. | | |
| ▲ | duskdozer 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's also true that illness and disability can come to any of us. Carol could have been a software developer who made a good bit of money before being unable to work anymore. | | |
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| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > is severely disabled by schizophrenia but at the same time can afford a £2000 fridge. The fridge has been on sale for a few years and schizophrenia can come on very suddenly. People's lives can change in a day because of it. You and I don't know the truth of it and can't reasonably jump to conclusions like that. | | |
| ▲ | dotancohen 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I recently had an obviously disturbed man come to the window of my Tesla asking for help. He did not specifically say money, but that's what he wanted. Long story short, he sees that the Tesla has identified a human standing next to the car, but the Tesla showed four people. The man asked how does the vehicle know there are people there, I told him that the Tesla has eight cameras around it. He then asked how does it know there were four people, I explained that the Tesla does not know there were four people, rather the Tesla has a hard time figuring out where something as small as a human is - it is designed to detect larger things like other vehicles. The man was obviously extremely affected, and walked away without another word. Only later did I understand that the Tesla may have just confirmed what he had suspected all along - that there are in fact four people in the place where he is standing. |
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