| ▲ | mhitza 3 hours ago |
| 47% percent of voters wanted a ~6" phone, and 12% of voters a ~7" phone. I guess me and the remaining 41% of voters are still left wishing for 5" phones to make a comeback. |
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| ▲ | dijit 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Supply chain has left us. Since there's no new development happening with small phones, we'd have to settle for "older spec" screens (IE, new stock iPhone 5 screens, with none of the colour accuracy, frame-rate etc improvements from the last 10 years). People don't like "old spec", so they'd probably not buy those devices. If you're a small player, then you're downstream of the supply chain, you don't make the rules. Chicken and Egg problem. Ironically people think there's no market for small phones due to apple making a "small phone" which had a larger screen size than an iPhone 6.. which was when phones started getting too big for me, and many people I spoke to. So, you make a small phone that isn't actually small, it sells like poop so you presume that people don't want small phones.. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > colour accuracy, frame-rate Absolutely irrelevant for what I do with a phone, and I'd wager that 90% of users would not notice the difference. | | |
| ▲ | dogma1138 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Variable frame rate screens aren’t just for making the phone feel snappier but are also needed for the battery to last longer. If your production volume isn’t high enough to justify a custom screen to be cut you are stuck with what is available on the market. And even if 5” screens are available now in the form of NOS or upcycled refurbs that may not be the case 2 or 3 not to mention 5+ years down the line. So you have to go with what not only is available today but with what is still likely to be available throughout the expected usable lifetime of your product. | |
| ▲ | thesuitonym an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 90% wouldn't notice, but of those 90%, 5% compared specs and got the phone with better color accuracy "just in case," and 95% just went to their local retailer and either bought the newest phone or the cheapest phone. | |
| ▲ | crossroadsguy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I had iPhone 12 Mini and then 14 and now 17. I can't practically tell the difference except for battery life, weight, and size. | | |
| ▲ | burningChrome 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It will be pretty imperceivable when you stay within the same ecosystem. If you went from your 17 and then went to a mid tier phone like a Samsung A71, you would notice a difference. Display is something I for sure started paying attention to when I was jumping back and forth between Android and Apple when I went from my OnePlus to Apple and then to Samsung noticed differences. |
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| ▲ | dijit 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Are you really telling me that people wouldn't look at the spec-sheet and state (loudly) that they won't buy a phone because "in 2025 it doesn't even have 120fps"? I don't believe you if that's the case. | | |
| ▲ | rob74 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm not the OP, but if you ask me, I'll tell you that I think most phone users out there don't even know what a fps is, let alone how many fps their smartphone has... | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I've never looked at the spec sheet when I bought a phone. | | |
| ▲ | dijit an hour ago | parent [-] | | yet, every time there’s a “niche” product that people asked for on HN the first comment is almost always about specifications being out of date |
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| ▲ | sho_hn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Re us/we, you're not associated with Jolla, right? For clarity. | | |
| ▲ | dijit 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | To clarify: no. Though I suspect I worked with many staff members at Nokia. Their former CTO was my boss. |
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| ▲ | jeffbee 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You know what, that is exactly what Lenovo executives were telling their customers right up until the moment that Apple released Retina devices. Lenovo swore in a blog post that because of the overall panel market it was quite impossible to put an IPS display in a laptop, then a few days later Apple released a 221 DPI 15" IPS MacBook Pro. | | |
| ▲ | dijit 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Apple definitely has the grunt I'm talking about to push the supply chain to change. |
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| ▲ | lvspiff 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What about those of us that were expecting an earpiece and glasses with AR for calling by now? |
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| ▲ | dijit 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | FYI, if you have an Apple Watch with LTE you can take facetime calls with it using your Airpods. Feels kinda weird, definitely works. (same for music) |
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| ▲ | nikanj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Every now and then some phone manufacturer mistakes online sentiment for actual demand and gets burned making a mini phone that won’t sell |
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| ▲ | thesuitonym 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I've been IT operations for years, and when I order laptops I sometimes do a little experiment. If I ask people if they want a 15.6" laptop or a 13" laptop, they always say 15.6. If I don't give them a choice and just start buying 13" laptops, everybody tells me how much they love the smaller laptop, and people still on the 15.6" models start looking around asking when they can get the smaller one. People don't know what they want unless you give it to them. | |
| ▲ | nebula8804 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah...like Apple: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... As someone holding onto their iPhone mini 13 for dear life, I hope they will release a one off in a few years once support for the 13 mini ends. | | |
| ▲ | Lord-Jobo 44 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yeah I feel like putting it closer to the SE lifecycle is must be a better decision than fully axing the mini lineup. If we get a mini 13, then a mini 19 or 20? I can live with that. |
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| ▲ | boznz 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Only Apple would consider selling millions, but not tens of millions a failure. | |
| ▲ | Telaneo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What 5-ish inch screen phone has even been released within the past 5 years? The only ones I can think of are the Unihertz phones, and those don't get a single update after getting shoved out the door, not to mention that they're probably full of Chinese backdoors. I'd buy that exact phone in a heartbeat if it didn't have those problems, and all the other ones I've seen have similar dealbreakers. | | |
| ▲ | hxtk an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | iPhone had the 12 and 13 mini, but they didn't sell, so there was no iPhone 14 mini and hasn't been one since. That was a 5.4" display. | | |
| ▲ | maelito an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > but they didn't sell What do you call "didn't sell" ? In numbers. | | | |
| ▲ | Telaneo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I skipped that one because my SE 2 was less than a year old and I didn't want to go up a size. | |
| ▲ | Wistar an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I cherish my iPhone 12 Mini and treat it with great care as it is the form factor I want and I want it to last as long as possible. |
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| ▲ | cluckindan an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | iPhone SE 3 was released in 2022 | | |
| ▲ | Telaneo an hour ago | parent [-] | | Very fair. I skipped it because my SE 2 was still going strong when that came out, which I kind of regret now, since I can't get a new SE 3 anymore. |
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| ▲ | maelito an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Small phones are also way less addictive. It's not in the interest of the mobile ecosystem. | | |
| ▲ | nebula8804 an hour ago | parent [-] | | How do you assess that? I'd imagine it would be more along the lines of is the phone frictionless to use? This is just an anecdote but I owned every Google Nexus phone they made up to Nexus 5. A series of bugs caused priceless videos to get ruined and I decided to try iPhone after that. I didn't realize just how much I unconsciously hated using the Nexus phone and that contributed to me not actually adopting smartphone software until I got the iPhone. When the phone and the OS were a burden it led to the phone being avoided. I dont know which was better. I appreciate the battery life, camera and general stability but I hate the new addictions to social media it has caused. |
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