This is what makes Teslas sustainable and other car cos, like Porsche, not.

A battery pack for a Model 3 is $10K. So even if the whole car is only worth $20K, it's still worth keeping on the road.

The Porsche Taycan battery pack is $70K. The moment you have any issue at all with it, the car will be considered totaled.

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fsh an hour ago | parent | next [-]

This is like comparing a Casio to a Rolex. Both do roughly the same thing, but the markets are completely different. Nobody buys a high-end luxury car like a Taycan because it makes financial sense. The manufacturers know this and price everything accordingly.

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nandomrumber 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is that $10k the list price, or have you actually seen a recent invoice from a mechanic for a Model 3 battery swap?

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oskarkk 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've searched the internet and I found some articles and people talking about prices around $11-16k, most of the times including labor.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/new-battery-cost-for...

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/183if34/what_i...

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/1blczt1/what_a...

https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/tesla-battery-replace...

https://www.findmyelectric.com/blog/tesla-model-3-battery-re...

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cyberax 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was quoted $15k in a Tesla service center for a Model 3 battery replacement, with parts and labor.

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lifty 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Wait another year. CATL is destroying the battery market with their new LFP and sodium batteries. Prices are collapsing.

	▲	hnarn an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Doesn't sound like a market being "destroyed" to me, it sounds like a market being a market.

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whatever1 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s an urban legend.

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tpm 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

EV Clinic identified some issues in Teslas too, for example this one: https://x.com/evclinic/status/1994876173277335745

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tw04 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The moment you have any issue at all with it, the car will be considered totaled.

Huh? The taycan has an 8-year/100k mile battery warranty. How many 100k+ mile carreras do you see for sale on eBay?

	▲	nicholassmith 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Quite a few actually, regular 911s often end up being daily drivers and given Porsche build them to last there's plenty of high milers out there.
	▲	cromka 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Carrera is not Taycan. Why would you equate both? Different cars with different targets.
	▲	lan321 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		It's like the S60, VW W12, old V12 Continentals, etc. If it's expensive to maintain no one wants to buy it off you so you get hit with massive depreciation costs. You can get a 20y/o 'no issues' 500+hp V12 Continental for 10k where I'm at. They've had a brutal cost/year and cost/mile.
	▲	josephh 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The warranty isn't going to cover underside damages caused by going over a shallow bump