| ▲ | jsheard 10 hours ago |
| H266/VVC has a five year head-start over AV2, so probably that first unless hardware vendors decide to skip it entirely. The final AV2 spec is due this year, so any day now, but it'll take a while to make it's way into hardware. |
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| ▲ | adgjlsfhk1 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| H266 is getting fully skipped (except possibly by Apple). The licensing is even worse than H265, the gains are smaller, and Google+Netflix have basically guaranteed that they won't use it (in favor of AV1 and AV2 when ready). |
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| ▲ | johncolanduoni 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Did anybody, including the rightsholders, come out ahead on H265? From the outside it looked like the mutually assured destruction situation with the infamous mobile patents, where they all end up paying lawyers to demand money from each other for mostly paper gains. | |
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| ▲ | adzm 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| VVC is pretty much a dead end at this point. Hardly anyone is using it; it's benefits over AV1 are extremely minimal and no one wants the royalty headache. Basically everyone learned their lesson with HEVC. |
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| ▲ | kevincox 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If it has a five year start and we've seen almost zero hardware shipping that is a pretty bad sign. IIRC AV1 decoding hardware started shipping within a year of the bitstream being finalized. (Encoding took quite a bit longer but that is pretty reasonable) |
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| ▲ | shmerl 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| When even H.265 is being dropped by the likes of Dell, adoption of H.266 will be even worse making it basically DOA for anything promising. It's plagued by the same problems H.265 is. |
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| ▲ | SG- 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Dell is significant in the streaming and media world? | | |
| ▲ | close04 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Dell and HP are significant in the "devices" world and they just dropped the support for HEVC hardware encoding/decoding [1] to save a few cents per device. You can still pay for the Microsoft add-in that does this. It's not just streaming, your Teams background blur was handled like that. Eventually people and companies will associate HEVC with "that thing that costs extra to work", and software developers will start targeting AV1/2 so their software performance isn't depending on whether the laptop manufacturer or user paid for the HEVC license. [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/11/hp-and-dell-disable-... | | |
| ▲ | nolok an hour ago | parent [-] | | On the same line, Synology dropped it on their NAS too (for their video, media etc ... Even thumbnails, they ask the sender device to generate one locally and send it, the NAS won't do it anymore for HEVC) |
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