| ▲ | bluefirebrand 2 hours ago |
| It is probably not good if nearly half (38% qualifies as nearly half, right?) of students are considered disabled and needing accommodations, right? Surely nearly half of any given public population can't be disabled? |
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| ▲ | rovr138 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| 25% of Americans have a disability, https://www.cdc.gov/disability-and-health/media/pdfs/disabil... We don't know what's the percentage broken down by age. If 38% is almost 50%, 25% is almost 38%. |
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| ▲ | almosthere 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | My dad at 50 got a disabled parking placard. He did have knee surgery, but he really didn't struggle with it about 4 months after his surgery. I asked him why he still had it - I got the impression that at this point he wanted his priority parking spot anyway. Didn't like driving around with him much after that. | | |
| ▲ | rovr138 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | recursive an hour ago | parent [-] | | I once lived with a guy who had a valid disabled parking placard. But he didn't like to use it because he didn't feel like he really needed it. Once the apartment manager basically begged him to use it because parking was scarce in the complex and the disabled parking was under-utilized. I don't think the dad necessarily sucks here. The dad didn't make up the system. |
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| ▲ | SilasX 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's over the entire population, which includes the elderly. For the 18-34yo block, it's 8.3%, and you'd probably expect it even lower for ... well, the population that, to put it bluntly, succeeded in life enough to get into Stanford. https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2024/comm/disa... Edit: And to clarify, just to be fair, I can accept there are many things that would qualify as "a disability that the education system should care about" but which don't rise to the level of the hard binary classification of "disabled" that would show up in government stats. I'm just saying that the overall 25% figure isn't quite applicable here. | | |
| ▲ | rovr138 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I would love to have experts look at the data of this self reported community survey vs the CDC's data. --- To the edit, I can agree. We are talking ultimately what ADA classifies as a dissability. Which is different from what might be needed for driving (as an example). ADA has requirements. Doctors have their definitions. They're being met. If a doctor abuses it, then we should be going for the doctors. As was said in another comment, while they are human and susceptible, they also are the ones with the license. |
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| ▲ | cynicalpeace 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They're quite obviously not. They're lying so they can get unlimited time on the test and/or look at their phone. They're smart kids that see a loophole in the system. They will take advantage! |
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| ▲ | acedTrex 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > They're smart kids that see a loophole in the system. They will take advantage! This is just not an acceptable cultural viewpoint. Abusing a permissive system must be discouraged. | | |
| ▲ | rovr138 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Abusing a permissive system must be discouraged. Fine. Where are the doctors? Why is the debate on the students? | | | |
| ▲ | carlosjobim 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's how most of the people in the world are, including the dearest friends and family. Most people's only motivation in life is to find a loophole to abuse. They will even convince themselves they are something they're not to achieve it. God have mercy on us. |
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| ▲ | bluefirebrand 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Right. What I'm saying is that we've probably screwed up by creating a system that incentivizes people to "be disabled" even if they really are stretching the definition of disabled | | |
| ▲ | skywhopper 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I hope you realize that the students don’t think of themselves as “disabled” in the disparaging way you mean it. I have ADHD and I’m color blind. Both conditions make me “disabled” in some sense, and yet I went to college and have managed to have a job my whole adult life. Being “disabled” doesn’t mean “useless” or “incapable of doing anything” as you seem to imply. |
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| ▲ | skywhopper 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You clearly know nothing about how these accommodations are handled. | | |
| ▲ | lostmsu 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Can you clarify? I heard about the test time thing from students. That corroborates the parent comment. |
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| ▲ | skywhopper 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most everyone has some disability or other. Just because you may work around it or not think of it that way, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. |
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| ▲ | bananalychee 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Even 5% would be pushing it at a university. It's easy today to get a diagnosis for something like mild ADHD whether one has it or not, and everyone is on some kind of spectrum. Legitimacy aside, classifying mild, manageable conditions as disabilities that require special accommodations and/or medication is counter-productive long-term. |
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| ▲ | rovr138 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Who are you to say what should be included or not, that something can be gauged as mild or not, and that there should be a treshold? | | |
| ▲ | ThrowMeAway1618 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | >Who are you to say what should be included or not, that something can be gauged as mild or not, and that there should be a treshold? They're bananalychee, that's who they are! What are you, some kind of anarchist? All hail bananalychee! Master of the Universe and the last word on all things! Please bless me bananalychee by impregnating my wife and daughters! |
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