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Kim_Bruning 4 hours ago

Room for new competitors!

pixl97 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"The market will fix itself!"

Narrator: "In fact the market did not fix itself"

phendrenad2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I can buy a smartphone or tablet that's 100% unlockable and has all the bells and whistles right now, and get it delivered in 24 hours, and not pay significantly more than average.

I think the market is working just fine. (To which people usually say "for now". Well yeah, the sun hasn't gone supernova... for now)

bigyabai 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes, and heroin users can go buy fruits and veggies if they want to improve their health outlook. The fact that better alternatives exist does not mean the market will reward them, which is the point the parent is making.

ixwt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Narrator's Narrator: "The overwhelming majority of consumers don't care about the bootloader, so the market forces do not have an incentive to keep it unlocked. This leads to the market not 'fixing itselt'. "

throwaway48476 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

People are not and cannot be rational actors in the market owing to imperfect knowledge. Externalities are common.

goku12 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This isn't the 'market not fixing itself'. This is the 'market being actively manipulated and enshittified'. Don't forget that it's much easier to leave the boot-loader unlockable or even unlockable by just the owner, than it is to keep it locked and under control of a remote corporation. They went out of their way to enshittify it.

jajuuka 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

This isn't true. It's far more secure to lock the boot loader and block root than it is to leave them open. This is a basic security measure from the OEM. They didn't just wake up yesterday and go "let's mess with those nerds."

kachapopopow 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

if the market is not solving the problem then the natural conclusion is that it is not a problem that needs solving, pretty sad about it that not that many people care about these things.

The opposite is pretty much true when it comes to security I am generally forced to use an apple device since I can be relatively sure that my keys will be safe (not including state sponsored actors, at that point I would have bigger problems).

Now something for the market to actually solve would be poor hardware security in general making locked bootloaders serve no purpose, having strong built-in security at the SOC would diminish the advantages gained with locked down systems and would allow us to have BYOK without compromising on the general populations security.

clot27 3 hours ago | parent [-]

market is stupid concept.

kalterdev 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s very common for dictators to call people stupid as an excuse for their power abuse.

preisschild an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

GrapheneOS is working with an OEM that wants to support this (+ the added security requirements for GOS)