I can only speak for myself, but I considered a few options, including "simple k8s" like [Skate](https://skateco.github.io/), and ultimately decided to build on uncloud.

It was as much personal "taste" than anything, and I would describe the choice as similar to preferring JSON over XML.

For whatever reason, kubernetes just irritates me. I find it unpleasant to use. And I don't think I'm unique in that regard.

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1dom 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> For whatever reason, kubernetes just irritates me. I find it unpleasant to use. And I don't think I'm unique in that regard.

I feel the same. I feel like it's a me problem. I was able to build and run massive systems at scale and never used kubernetes. Then, all of a sudden, around 2020, any time I wanted to build or run or do anything at scale, everywhere said I should just use kubernetes. And then when I wanted to do anything with docker in production, not even at scale, everywhere said I should just use kubernetes.

Then there was a brief period around 2021 where everyone - even kubernetes fans - realised it was being used everywhere, even when it didn't need to be. "You don't need k8s" became a meme.

And now, here we are, again, lots of people saying "just use k8s for everything".

I've learned it enough to know how to use it and what I can do with it. I still prefer to use literally anything else apart from k8s when building, and the only time I've ever felt k8s has been really needed to solve a problem is when the business has said "we're using k8s, deal with it".

It's like the Javascript or WordPress of the infrastructure engineering world - it became the lazy answer, IMO. Or the me problem angle: I'm just an aged engineer moaning at having to learn new solutions to old problems.

	▲	hhh 19 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It’s a nice portable target, with very well defined interfaces. It’s easy to start with and pretty easy to manage if you don’t try to abuse it.

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tw04 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How many flawless, painless major version upgrades have you had with literally any flavor of k8s? Because in my experience, that’s always a science experiment that results in such pain people end up just sticking at their original deployed version while praying they don’t hit any critical bugs or security vulnerabilities.

	▲	mxey 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I’ve run Kubernetes since 2018 and I can count on one hand the times there were major issues with an upgrade. Have sensible change management and read the release notes for breaking changes. The amount of breaking changes has also gone way down in recent years.
	▲	jauntywundrkind 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I applaud you for having a specific complaint. 'You might not need it' 'its complex' and 'for some reason it bothers me' are all these vibes based winges that are so abundant. But with nothing specific, nothing contestable.