Hello HN! We're a team of three building a new kind of web-based markdown editor.

There are many editors out there, so one is spoiled for choice, but Kraa's approach is a little different. It's trying to be both a minimal and distraction-free experience while being feature-rich and allowing for tons of use cases.

What Kraa's good for:

- Distraction-free writing & reading (minimal UI, performant, styling logic completely separated from the editing experience)

- Quick sharing of any written text – compared to many other writing tools, your content can be easily shared just by posting a link and giving 'read' or 'edit' access (we also have password-protection)

- Real-time chat / communities – Kraa has some unique features around real-time editing and our Chat widget allows for a frictionless chat experience. No send button.

- Kraa works well on mobile (though dedicated apps are planned)

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Demo examples (all live, no login needed):

Blog article: https://kraa.io/kraa/examples/echolibrary

Long-form story: https://kraa.io/kraa/examples/insidekick

Magazine: https://kraa.io/weeklyinspiration

Kraa is built on top of ProseMirror (and TipTap) and Svelte.

You don’t need an account to try Kraa. We’d really appreciate your thoughts and feedback!

Apparently, Notion, Obsidian, Google Docs, Word, Notes, Reminders, Evernote, Bear, Typora, iA Writer, Ulysses, Standard Notes, Simplenote, Roam, LogSeq, Craft, Vim, Emacs and the hundreds other editors launched this week alone just weren't doing it. They were too cluttered. Too focused. Too specific in their use cases. Not online. Too offline.

After watching a bunch of people use the live chat, I am not discouraged by live chat anymore.

I actually think one can make it work, one simply needs to account for moderation and flooding upfront.

The first feature you need is a way to instantly ignore people who are ruining the collective experience. I would think when a person is ignored by a certain threshold of people, their content should automatically be moderated.

The second feature that’s needed is some sort of flood protection or detection. If a user is pasting or trying to flood the chat with characters, they should be instantly hidden and their content be subject to moderation. Being able to distinguish between copying and pasting on occasion and flooding goes a long way.

- Click "Start Writing"

- Start typing, nothing happens

- Editor apparently didn't focus, I try clicking anywhere on the page to give text editor focus

- Editor doesn't focus when you click on it?

For being an experience "all about writing", I sure don't understand how to get started? I click in the middle of the page, but nothing is focusing? Using Firefox 145.0.1.

Intriguing.

But - the first thing I want to know it "how much" and then shortly after that I want to know "can I run it myself".

i don't get it. if i need to write a document, i'll still use google docs. if i want to write a blogpost, i'll use a blog hosting platform. if I want a wiki, i'll use a wiki platform

> It's not designed to be this or that

well then why am i using it

Example of the real-real-time chat: https://kraa.io/hackernews

This is damn awesome!

Edit: at first I thought it was too damn awesome, but then I noticed that my phone is overheating after just a few minutes watching the live chat.

Without sounding negative, i see a lot of bells and whistles

For UX it seems better to only show features when you need it. You're up against a physical notepad.

Maybe I'm not the target audience

nice work. i'm curious, what's the architecture for authorization?

The Food Recipe example link doesn't go to a food recipe :-(

Congrats! This was something I have not seen before. People loved it, apparently. Real time chat makes it so even with few users, there is so much happening. Unfortunately moderation could be a problem. Good luck with it. Gos bless you, my morning is a little bit happier now

Beautiful. Is it E2E encrypted?

self hosting when?