> the secondary market is still alive.

this is the crux. Will these data center cards, if a newer model came out with better efficiency, have a secondary market to sell to?

It could be that second hand ai hardware going into consumers' hands is how they offload it without huge losses.

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vesrah 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The GPUs going into data centers aren't the kind that can just be reused by putting them into a consumer PC and playing some video games, most don't even have video output ports and put out FPS similar to cheap integrated GPUs.

	▲	geerlingguy 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		And the big ones don't even have typical PCIe sockets, they are useless outside of behemoth rackmount servers requiring massive power and cooling capacity that even well-equipped homelabs would have trouble providing!

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physicsguy 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Data centre cards a don’t have fans and don’t have video out these days.

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chii 6 hours ago | parent [-]

i dont mean consumer market for video cards - i mean a consumer buying ai chips to run themselves so they can have it locally.

If i can buy a $10k ai card for less than $5000 dollars, i probably would, if i can use it to run an open model myself.

	▲	mike_hearn 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Why would you do that when you can pay someone else to run the model for you on newer more efficient and more profitable hardware? What makes it profitable for you and not for them?
	▲	mkjs 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		At that point it isn't a $10k card anymore, it's a $5k card. And possibly not a $5k card for very long in the scenario that the market has been flooded with them.
	▲	darkwater 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		How many "yous" are there in the world? Probably a number that can buy what's inside one Azure DC?
	▲	physicsguy 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Ah well yes to a degree that’s possible but at least at the moment you’d still be better off buying a $5k Mac Studio if it’s just inference you’re doing
	▲	esseph 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You need the hardware to wrap that in, and the power draw is going to be... significant.

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