?? I got very confused from the start of this article because it is clear that Kohler is one end of the communication from how the product is described and marketed. They’re just stating the data is encrypted between the device and them.

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amingilani 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> it is clear that Kohler is one end of the communication

That’s not end-to-end encryption. By that logic HN, and any other website over HTTPS is E2E encrypted.

	▲	amelius 24 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Is HTTPS really always E2EE? I was under the impression that large companies work with proxies so they can do deep packet inspection. PS: you are right of course.
	▲	richbell 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That is what "end-to-end encryption" has come to mean in marketing. In the same way that every single product is "natural."

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g-b-r 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, they're just trying to mislead their clients