| ▲ | fastball 8 hours ago |
| I have never seen "e2ee" abused this way personally. |
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| ▲ | N-Krause 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| There was a discussion here on hn about OpenAI and it's privacy. Same confusion about e2ee. Users thinking e2ee is possible when you chat with an ai agent. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45908891 |
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| ▲ | charcircuit 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | >Users thinking e2ee is possible when you chat with an ai agent. It shouldn't be any harder than e2ee chatting with any other user. It's just instead of the other end chatting using a keyboard as an input they chat using a language model to type the messages. Of course like any other e2ee solution, the person you are talking to also has access to your messages as that's the whole point, being able to talk to them. | | |
| ▲ | swiftcoder an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I do not think this matches anyones' mental model of what "end-to-end encrypted" for a conversation between me and what is ostensibly my own computer should look like. If you promise end-to-end encryption, and later it turns out your employees have been reading my chat transcripts... | |
| ▲ | zarzavat 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | e2ee implies that there is a third party who can't read the messages. If you are chatting with an AI, who is the third party? |
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| ▲ | pyuser583 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I saw a YouTube video claim similar levels of privacy are possible using trusted computing. |
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| ▲ | ljlolel 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Zoom also did this once |
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| ▲ | wkat4242 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They don't care about security at all. They once shipped a backdoor in their macOS app. It was noticed and called out and they refused to remove it. It took Apple blacklisting it for Zoom to finally take action. | |
| ▲ | internetter 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They also paid me something around 100 dollars in settlement for this | |
| ▲ | bayindirh 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I believe they now have a proper e2ee mode which disables all the cloud powered features, no? |
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| ▲ | hulitu 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, iCloud |
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