|
| ▲ | smoe 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I don't think Google is bad at building products. They definitely are excellent at scaling products. But I reckon part of the sentiment stems from many of the more famous Google products being acquisitions orignally (Android, YouTube, Maps, Docs, Sheets, DeepMind) or originally built by individual contributors internally (Gmail). Then here were also several times where Google came out with multiple different products with similar names replacing each other. Like when they had I don't know how many variants of chat and meeting apps replacing each other in a short period of time. And now the same thing with all the different confusing Gemini offerings. Which leads to the impression that they don't know what they are doing product wise. |
| |
| ▲ | Arainach 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Starting with an acquisition is a cheap way of accelerating once your company reaches a certain size. Look at Microsoft - Powerpoint was an acquisition. They bought most of the team that designed and built Windows NT from DEC. Frontpage was an acquisition, Azure came after AWS and was led by a series of people brought in in acquisitions (Ray Ozzie, Mark Russinovich, etc.). It's how things happen when you're that big. | | |
| ▲ | kelnos 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think it's a little unfair to give DEC credit for NT. Sure, they may have bought the team, but they did most (all?) of the work on NT at Microsoft. That's not like Google buying Android when they already had a functioning (albeit not at all polished) smartphone OS. |
| |
| ▲ | cma 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why wouldn't you count things initially made by individual contributors at Google? | | |
| ▲ | oidar 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Because those were "free time" projects. It wasn't directed to do by the company, somebody at the company with their flex time - just thought it was a good idea and did it. Googlers don't get this benefit any more for some reason. | |
| ▲ | lmm 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because they're not a good measure of the company's ability to develop products based on the direction from leadership. |
|
|
|
| ▲ | aaronAgain 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Those are all free products, some of them are pretty good. But free is the best business strategy to get a product to the top of the market. Are others better, are you willing to spend money to find out? Clearly, most people are not interested. The fact that they can destroy the market for many different types of software by giving it away and still stay profitable is amazing. But that's all they are doing. If they started charging for everything there would be better competition and innovation. You could move a whole lot of okay-but-not-great cars, top every market segment you want, if you gave them away for free. Only enthusiasts would remain to pay for slightly more interesting and specific features. Literally no business model can survive when their primary product is competing with good-enough free products. |
|
| ▲ | 7thaccount 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They come up with tons and tons of products like Google Glass and Google+ and so on and immediately abandon them. It is easy to see that there is no real vision. They make money off AdSense and their cloud services. That's about it. |
| |
| ▲ | nunez 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Google does abandon a lot of stuff, but their core technologies usually make their way into other, more profitable things (collaborative editing from Wave into Docs; loads of stuff from Google+; tagging and categorizing in Photos from Picasa (I'm guessing); etc) | |
| ▲ | tombert 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It annoyed me recently that they dropped support for some Nest/Google Home thermostats. Of course, they politely offered to let me buy a replacement for $150. |
|
|
| ▲ | lmm 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Products: Search, Gmail, Chrome, Android, Maps, Youtube, Workspace (Drive, Docs, Sheets, Calendar, Meet), Photos, Play Store, Chromebook, Pixel ... not to mention Cloud, Waymo, and Gemini ... Many of those are acquisitions. In-house developed ones tend to be the most marginal on that list, and many of their most visibly high-effort in-house products have been dramatic failures (e.g. Google+, Glass, Fiber). |
| |
| ▲ | tombert 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I was extremely surprised that Google+ didn't catch on. The week before Google+ launched, me and all my friends agreed that Facebook is toast, Google will do the same thing but better, and everyone has a Gmail account so there will be basically zero barrier to entry. Obviously, we were wrong; Google+ managed to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory, Google+ never got significant traction, and Facebook managed to keep growing and now they're yet another Big Evil Tech Corporation. Honestly, I still don't really know how Google managed to mess that up. | | |
| ▲ | lmm 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I got early access to Google+ because of where I worked at the time. The invite-only thing had worked great for GMail but unfortunately a social network is useless if no-one else is on it. Then the real names thing and the resulting drumbeat of horror stories like "Google doxxed me to my violent ex-husband" killed what little momentum they had stone dead. I still don't know why they went so hard on that, honestly. |
|
|
|
| ▲ | Esras 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think the sentiment is usually paired with discussion about those products as long-lasting, revenue-generating things. Many of those ended up feeding back into Search and Ads. As an exercise, out of the list you described, how many of those are meaningfully-revenue-generating, without ads? A phrasing I've heard is "Google regularly kills billion-dollar businesses because that doesn't move the needle compared to an extra 1% of revenue on ads." And, to be super pedantic about it, Android and YouTube were not products that Google built but acquired. |
| |
| ▲ | MegaDeKay 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They bought YouTube but you have to give Google a hell of a lot of credit for turning it into what it is today. Taking ownership of YouTube at the time was seen by many as taking ownership of an endless string of copyright lawsuits, suing them into oblivion. | | |
| ▲ | 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | hadlock 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Youtube maintains an independent campus from the google/alphabet mothership, I'm curious how much direction they get, as (outwardly, at least) appear to run semi-autonomously. |
| |
| ▲ | projektfu 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Before Google touched Android it was a cool concept but not what we think of today. Apparently it didn't even run on Linux. That concept came after the acquisition. | |
| ▲ | tempest_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That is because the DoubleClick parasite has long infected the host. |
|
|
| ▲ | falcor84 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Notably all other than Gemini are from a decade or more ago. They used to know how to make products, but then they apparently took an arrow in the knee. |
|
| ▲ | m4rtink 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Didn't they buy lots of those actually ? |
|
| ▲ | mike50 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Search was the only mostly original product. With the exception of YouTube which was a purchase, Android and ChromeOS all the other products were initially clones. |