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AlotOfReading an hour ago

That's with safety drivers, a small fleet, and literally only the most recent data (since it wasn't broken out before). My experience with AV deployments is that your incident rate is significantly different once you remove humans, and small fleet sizes/deployment areas hide a lot of long tail issues.

Waymo is operating at a much larger scale across a huge range of conditions with hardware that's generations behind their latest and still performing better.

vardump an hour ago | parent [-]

Ok, I guess we'll need to wait until Tesla removes the safety drivers to see the whole truth.