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HPsquared 16 hours ago

I wonder if there's a hidden confounding selection bias here, i.e. "ability of the school to ban phones". This is probably easier in less chaotic schools where the students listen to the teachers, say.

QuercusMax 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In our local schools, they don't make *teachers* responsible for enforcing the bans. Students have to keep their phones in a Yondr pouch. If they're caught with their phone it will be confiscated (and require a parent to pick it up), and the administration will give also give additional consequences such as being banned from extracurriculars or school activities like Prom.

My student tells me that in practice many students don't keep their phone in the pouch, but they are very careful about how and when they use them. Many teachers have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy - if I don't see you using the phone, and it's not disruptive, then they don't care.

moduspol 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If the teachers and schools cannot implement a phone ban because the students won't listen to them, it might be time to reassess what their purpose is.

phantasmish 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ever watch The Wire? The school in that show is a very accurate depiction of what a... middling-bad inner city school is like. There are tons of ones worse than it (they may have shied away from one of that sort either because it didn't suit the story, or because they thought too many viewers would think they were exaggerating)

There are schools where the administrators are too busy dealing with violence to have time for much else.

lmm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you saying that from a perspective where the purpose of schools is to offer an education, or to keep kids locked up and be cheaper than daycare?

c22 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These sorts of schools already make kids pass through metal detectors on their way in so phones can just be confiscated at that point.

apical_dendrite 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A lot of schools implement this by having the students put their phones in a locked pouch when they enter the building in the morning. https://www.overyondr.com/phone-locking-pouch

This generally takes it out of the hands of individual classroom teachers.