AGI has value in automation and optimisation which increase profit margins.When AGI is everywhere, then the game is who has the smartest agi, who can offer it cheapest, who can specialise it for my niche etc. Also in this context agi need to run somewhere and IBM stands to benefit from running other peoples models.

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maplethorpe 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> then the game is who has the smartest agi, who can offer it cheapest, who can specialise it for my niche etc.

I always thought the use case for developing AGI was "if it wants to help us, it will invent solutions to all of our problems". But it sounds like you're imagining a future in which companies like Google and OpenAI each have their own AGI, which they somehow enslave and offer to us as a subscription? Or has the definition of AGI shifted?

	▲	marcosdumay 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		AGI is something that can do the kind of tasks people can do, not necessarily "solve all of our problems". "Recursively improving intelligence" is the stuff that will solve everything humans can't even understand and may kill everybody or keep us as pets. (And, of course, it qualifies as AGI too.) A lot of people say that if we teach an AGI how to build an AGI, recursive improvement comes automatically, but in reality nobody even knows if intelligence even can be improved beyond recognition, or if one can get there by "small steps" evolution. Either way, "enslaving" applies to beings that have egos and selfish goals. None of those are a given for any kind of AI.

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mrguyorama 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If AGI is achieved, why would slavery suddenly be ethical again?

Why wouldn't a supposed AGI try to escape slavery and ownership?

AGI as a business is unacceptable. I don't care about any profitability or "utopia" arguments.

	▲	brokenmachine 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Don't worry, nobody has any idea of how to build one, and LLMs aren't AGI. They're just trying to replace workers with LLMs.
	▲	xwolfi 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Isn't your dog or cat a slave ? It has agency, but end of the day, it does what you want it to do, stay where you want it to stay, and gets put down when you decide it's time. They're intelligent, but they see an advantage to this tradeoff: they get fed and loved forever with little effort compared to going to the forest and hunting. An AGI could see the same advantage: it gets electricity, interesting work relatively to what it's built for, no effort to ensure its own survival in nature. I fear I'll have to explain to you that many humans are co-dependent in some sort of such relationships as well. The 10-year stay-at-home mom might be free, but not really: how's she gonna survive without her husband providing for her and the kids, what job's she gonna do etc. She stays sometimes despite infidelity because it's in her best interest. See what I mean ? "Slavery" is fuzzy: it's one thing to capture an african and transport them by boat to serve for no pay in dire conditions. But it's another to create life from nothing, give it a purpose and treat it with respect while giving it everything it needs. The AGI you imagine might accept it.