> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022.

The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some attempts to analyse this on youtube (also owned by Google - Google ruins our digital world); some explanations made sense to me, but even then I am not 100% certain why Google decided to ruin google search.

One key observation I made was that the youtube search, was copied onto Google's regular search, which makes no sense for google search. If I casually search for a video on youtube, I may be semi-interested in unrelated videos. But if I search on Google search for specific terms, I am not interested in crap such as "others also searched for xyz" - that is just ruining the UI with irrelevant information. This is not the only example, Google made the search results worse here and tries to confuse the user in clicking on things. Plus placement of ads. The quality really worsened.

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justinclift an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)?

With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off.

Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

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amelius an hour ago | parent [-]

Be aware of:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

	▲	smusamashah 32 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There are few other powerful countries, with countless Web services, who freely wages war(s) on other countries and support wars in many different ways. Is there a way to avoid their products?
	▲	eirini1 32 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I don't agree with this logic. It implies that people who use Google, Bing and a million other products made by US-based companies are supportive of the huge amount of attrocities commited or aided by the United States. Or other countries. It feels very odd to single out Russia's invasion of Ukraine but to minimize the Israeli genocide of palestinians in Gaza, the multiple unjust wars waged by the United States all over the world etc.
	▲	justinclift an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Damn. I didn't know that. Now we need a 2nd Kagi, so we can switch to that one instead. :(

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Maken an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is also the fact that automatically generated content predates ChatGPT by a lot. By around 2020 most Google searches already returned lots of SEO-optimized pages made from scrapped content or keyword soups made by rudimentary language models or markov chains.

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robot-wrangler 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Google made the search results worse here

Did you mean:

worse results near me

are worse results worth it

worse results net worth

best worse results

worse results reddit

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zipy124 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Honestly the biggest failing is just SEO spam sites got too good at defeating the algorithm. The amount of bloody listicles or quora nonsense or backlink farming websties that come up in search is crazy.

	▲	KineticLensman 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> websties Great new term!

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master-lincoln an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think this is about trustworthy content, not about a good search engine per se

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trinix912 an hour ago | parent [-]

But it's not necessarily trustworthy content, we had autogenerated listicles and keyword list sites before ChatGPT.

	▲	GTP 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Sure, but I think that the underlying assumption is that, after the public release of ChatGPT, the amount of autogenerated content on the web became significantly bigger. Plus, the auto-generated content was easier to spot before.

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bratwurst3000 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

the main theory is that with bad results you have to search more and get more engaged in ads so more revenue for google. Its enshitification