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DonHopkins 5 hours ago

Ride a bike.

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pixelpoet 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've never had a driver's licence, lived in a zillion countries; don't think I could do that in America though.

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Retric 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Over half of New York City households are car-free. That jumps to 3/4 in Manhattan.

Millions of American households don’t have a car, but you rarely hear about it as a viable option.

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JoeBOFH 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Because as soon as you leave a major metropolitan area, not having a car is almost a nonstarter.

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SoftTalker 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's the same in Europe, but people pushing an agenda don't talk about that either.

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add-sub-mul-div 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Over 100 million people live in just the top 20 metro areas alone. It's hardly an edge case.

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cwillu 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And _not_ living in one of the top 20 metro areas is also hardly an edge case.

	▲	ghaff 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		And even in most of those metros (OK. Leave aside Manhattan), not having a car tends to imply a lot of lifestyle choices in terms of activities, visiting friends outside of the metro, etc. There are certainly people who are OK with living like they did in their urban school for a few years after graduation. But that's not a long-term solution for most people.

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vel0city an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

A massive chunk (if not majority?) of those top 20 metro areas are largely car dependent for most of their populations. Large areas don't have any public transit at all, and the rest is often designed to be actively hostile to pedestrians.

Try living without a car in these places, all in the 4th largest MSA.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mHmGidZRJaKptHeL8

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5P4mW5iM6b5ab9Ve7

https://maps.app.goo.gl/JCiBgESKs5ZWqGny8

https://maps.app.goo.gl/E1iVwLCB28ooGhQL9

These are all in "urban" areas and a part of DFW. But how about Houston, the 5th?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7yEAimERmyE1EGde6

https://maps.app.goo.gl/UKSQjPqifWUSv82H7

I don't know how one would even get groceries without a car.

And even then, you're then talking about less than 1/3 of Americans living in that mostly car dependent space.

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calvinmorrison 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"the best public transit in the densest US city barely manages to reach 50% of car-free lifestyle" is what you're leaving out.

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chneu 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not possible when things are 10+ mile apart and a general grocery run takes 3+ hours and you can't carry more than a backpack, so you have to do it multiple times a week.

	▲	Zigurd an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The US is ripe for an e-bike revolution. The distances, the wide roads with plenty of room for bike lanes, and the revulsion against things like Flock... Unfortunately it's as likely as this being the year of the Linux desktop because Windows 11.