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the__alchemist 7 hours ago

We are in the disapora phase; there is a steady stream of these announcements, each with a different GitHub alternative. I speculate that within a few months, the communities will have settled on a single dominant one. I'm curious if it will be one of the existing ones, or something new. Perhaps a well-known company or individual will announce one; it will have good marketing, and dominate.

dewey 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This has been going on for a decade, at the beginning it was projects moving to Gitlab now there's a lot of alternative projects but GitHub is still the only one that counts for discoverability. This is a very small minority of projects that move away from Github and it's way too early to declare GitHub doomed.

hk1337 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No different than everyone talking about the next “iPhone Killer” when someone other than Apple releases a phone. Although, I think that rhetoric has largely died down.

CuriouslyC an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Github is fine for discoverability but as a development platform I think it's going to die. Public issues/PRs are a cesspool now and going to get worse, and agentic workflows are going to drive companies to want to hide how the sausage is made. People will gradually migrate to alternatives and mirror to Github while it remains relevant.

dewey an hour ago | parent [-]

I’d guess most revenue comes from enterprise accounts which are not public.

iamnothere 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Different devs have different preferred ways to work and collaborate. I doubt the FOSS community will converge on a single solution. I think we’re at a point of re-decentralization, where devs will move their projects to the forge that satisfies their personal/group requirements for control, hosting jurisdiction, corporate vs community ownership, workflow, and uptime.

This is due to increasing competition in the source forge space. It’s good that different niches can be served by their preferred choice, even if it will be less convenient for devs who want to contribute a patch on a more obscure platform.

manbash 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I speculate that within a few months, the communities will have settled on a single dominant one.

The solutions on the roadmap are not centralized as GitHub. There is a real initiative to promote federation so we would not need to rely on one entity.

the__alchemist 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I love this, and hope it works out this way. Maybe another way to frame it: In 2 years, what will the "Learn Python for Beginners" tutorials direct the user towards? Maybe there will not be a consensus, but my pattern-matching brain finds one!

NoboruWataya 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The bigger question is whether we want a single dominant replacement, or whether it just means we'll be back in the same place in 5 years.

icy 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Perhaps a well-known company or individual will announce one; it will have good marketing, and dominate.

Hah, exactly what we’re attempting with Tangled! Some big announcements to come fairly soon. We’re positioning ourselves to be the next social collab platform—focused solely on indies & communities.

blueflow 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The settling on a dominant one does not happen - self-hosting becomes more popular.

tolerance 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It looks like all that they’re doing is griping over frontends and interfaces to do all the custodial work other than version control (ie., all baked-in git provisions).

How do you speculate the candidacy for email.

diath 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn't that pretty much GitLab? But then most people still prefer GitHub anyway.

iamnothere 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

GitLab is too heavyweight for many projects. It’s great for corporations or big organizations like GNOME, but it’s slow and difficult to administer. It has an important place in the ecosystem, but I doubt many small projects will choose it over simpler alternatives like Codeberg.

hshdhdhj4444 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gitlab is worse than GitHub in every way.

At least GitHub adds new features over time.

Gitlab has been removing features in favor of more expensive plans even after explicitly saying they wouldn’t do so.

throw-qqqqq 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Personally, I prefer the CI/CD setup on GitLab over GitHub Actions.

Horses for courses I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Y_Y 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> At least GitHub adds new features over time.

Not as quickly as they add anti-features, imho.

shortrounddev2 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Gitlab works fine for me. Been using it at work for a few years and recently moved all my personal repos there

the__alchemist 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gitlab is part of the reason I'm thinking along these lines: It has been around for a while, as a known, reasonably popular alternative to GitHub. So, I expected the announcement to be "We moved to GitLab", Yet, what I observe is "We moved to CodeHouse" or "We moved to Source-Base" The self-hosting here with mirrors to two one I'm not familiar with is another direction.

shortrounddev2 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I think people are wary of moving to gitlab because its a similarly large platform and dont want to repeat their mistakes

blibble 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

gitlab has also gone full slop