| ▲ | AnimalMuppet 5 hours ago |
| The difference is that printing money creates more money, but doesn't create any more stuff. College degrees (theoretically) create more educated people. If you just "hand out" degrees, that doesn't happen, but if you actually teach people, then it does. |
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| ▲ | linguae 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I agree with you. The problem is that many young Americans for the past 30+ years has been told that a bachelor’s degree is the prerequisite for a job that pays well enough to afford a middle class lifestyle, which I’ll define as being able to afford owning a home in a safe neighborhood and being able to provide for a household without living paycheck-to-paycheck. What happens when a large number of college graduates enter a tough hiring market while they have five- (or even six-) figure student loan balances? It’s one thing to work at McDonald’s debt-free with a high school diploma; it’s another thing to end up at McDonald’s with tens of thousands of dollars in debt with a bachelor’s degree. Of course, there’s more to going to college than career prospects, and there’s also the reality that no one is owed a job. Still, given the amount of adults struggling with paying off their student loans, it’s no wonder more people are reevaluating the economic value of going to college. |
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| ▲ | pixl97 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | All this states is expensive degrees aren't worth it, not paid for education. | |
| ▲ | OGEnthusiast 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > The problem is that many young Americans for the past 30+ years has been told that a bachelor’s degree is the prerequisite for a job that pays well enough to afford a middle class lifestyle, which I’ll define as being able to afford owning a home in a safe neighborhood and being able to provide for a household without living paycheck-to-paycheck. Told by who? | | |
| ▲ | anonymouskimmer 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | My anecdote isn't quite the same, but it's along the lines of many adults, not just one's parents: While in high school I constantly got the message on how important it was to stay in school and graduate with a high school diploma. Ironically I passed up the chance to have an associate's degree before my 18th birthday, because I absorbed this message so well that I prioritized high school graduation over the A.S.. It was years later (round about the time I finally finished that A.S. at the age of 29) that I realized the message hadn't been meant for me, but for the students who were at risk of dropping out of high school. | |
| ▲ | tolerance 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Well for starters, perhaps the older homeowners who live in safe neighborhoods and provide for [young Americans] without living paycheck-to-paycheck. Their parents. | | |
| ▲ | OGEnthusiast 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah that's unfortunate then, America has changed so much in the past 10-15 years that advice that was worth following for the previous generation is just totally useless for the current circumstances. I don't think the parents had bad intentions though, they were just overly-optimistic in assuming the prosperity they enjoyed would continue indefinitely. | | |
| ▲ | tolerance 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > they were just overly-optimistic in assuming the prosperity they enjoyed would continue indefinitely. What worries me is how they came to believe this in spite of the last 10-15 years of change in the country…while possibly raising around 3 generations of high school graduates throughout. |
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| ▲ | anon291 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Educated people are the way they are due to a particular personality that they have. They are curious and self driven. Many educated people have no formal education. You cannot teach a personality. That's not to say other personalities are less worthwhile... It's just that we have emphasized one kind of personality as the ultimate one and then are surprised that -- after maxing out opportunities for those already suited towards that personality -- a saturation point is reached and future effort has marginal gains. |
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| ▲ | 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | anonymouskimmer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What's wonderful about comprehensive universities is that there's a program that can excite the interest of almost every personality. And even if that wasn't the case, education in general actually speaks to a variety of personalities: The self-motivated learner, the self-improver, the intellectual explorer, the goal-oriented achiever, the rules-based structure seeker. |
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