Absolutely no business with any real money is going to be swayed to use one cloud provider over the other based on one vibe coded app.

There is so much other stuff that goes into why business make decisions about any large contract. I’m not in cloud sales. But I venture just close enough to the sun not to get burned

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isodev 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Absolutely no business with any real money is going to be swayed

And what about everyone starting something? Or prototyping? And what if you don't have a choice: pay more or follow our sponsored guidelines?

This is a dangerous road without proper defences both in terms of legislation and policy (and I mean world-wide, world corps = world laws, not having to go to court in every country lol).

Also, end users need to be educated about all this because what is to stop John or Jane from uploading their receipts to GPT to make their taxes and ... oops "did you know you can switch insurance to XYZ" or ... AI browser proactively hiding content competing with their partners ... you looking for a healthcare package? The only one available is from our sponsor. Take it or leave it.

	▲	raw_anon_1111 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The tax situation already happens now with Intuit owning both Turbo Tax and CreditKarma to get you to sign up for credit cards. If I were prototyping something and found I could do it cheaper somewhere else, I’m not sure I would be upset. I hate ads just for the bad user experience. As long as it is clearly an ad and they say they have affiliations. It’s no different than what Google and Amazon does now. But ironically enough, I was almost about to pay for Overcast years ago even though the author openly admitted that you didn’t get much of anything for it except for supporting him back then. He then added a non slimy self hosted system to buy ads for other podcasts based on the category of podcast you were listening to at that very second (no tracking). I thought that was a great service. I think I would actually lean into a tight integration between ChatGPT and something like booking.com[1], AirBNB, GetYourGuide, etc when looking for travel ideas. [1] Well I personally wouldn’t because I am not as cost conscience as the average traveler and I value the loyalty programs and status of certain hotel chains and Delta airlines. But most travelers don’t and shouldn’t care. But if they let me put in my loyalty numbers and book directly with Hyatt, Hilton and Delta, hell I might pay more for ChatGPT.

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marcosdumay 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's a nice, sane world that you live in. How can one get there?

AFAIK, one wrong person getting an answer like the OP's is more than enough to force a medium sized (dozens of people) business to migrate.

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raw_anon_1111 14 hours ago | parent [-]

How many medium size migrations have you done? Its never that easy even if you are just hosting a bunch of VMs. Let alone if you are using any cloud specific services.

I have been involved in a few on the periphery working in cloud consulting (first at AWS itself and now an outside company). I actively avoid the “lift and shifts”. I come in for the “modernize” portion.

https://www.synatic.com/blog/lift-and-shift-vs-modernization

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marcosdumay 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Done? none, I wouldn't do it. Undone after it failed, one, and helped some other people in others.

You are expecting people to act rationally in a way that will succeed. That's not how a lot of places out there operate.

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raw_anon_1111 12 hours ago | parent [-]

I have been either part of or opted out of well over a dozen - I have a policy of never leading “lift and shifts” (and never staff augmentation).

Once you actually sit down and come up with a project plan with your PMO, a cloud migration is hardly ever worth the effort unless the destination cloud provider is backing up a shit ton of money for not only operational credits but also for internal AWS Professional Services (where I worked when I was inside AWS) or an outside partner to help (current employer).

Hell even certain departments at Amazon would never go through the effort of migrating to AWS from the legacy CDO infrastructure.

The risk of regressions, the refactoring, the retraining, the politics, etc are hardly ever worth it.

	▲	12_throw_away 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Once you actually sit down and come up with a project plan with your PMO [...] The risk of regressions, the refactoring, the retraining, the politics, etc are hardly ever worth it. You are entirely correct, of course ... except that much of the management class simply does not care about any of those things. Not to mention the sizable contingent of engineers will repeatedly get suckered by the pitch of "Just migrate all of your stuff to [shiny new thing] and all of your [reliable old thing] problems will go away" (a.k.a., "engineers with management potential")