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la_fayette 17 hours ago

It is no surprise, somehow they need to earn money. It will be interesting though how much the response of the LLM will be adapted. At least legally advertisement need to be marked for users. So either the response of an LLM will be extended with ad content or replaced by ad content.

eric-burel 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I am pretty sure you can figure massive loopholes like how it's legal to train the model on stolen data but not to steal data etc. For instance advertisers can push model benchmarks that favours some opinions, based on a biased selection of research papers. I think we've only seen the beginnings of what intricate business models can be figured for an AI company, it's much more convoluted than a search engine or even a social network.

makeitdouble 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It is no surprise, somehow they need to earn money

I kinda hate that a move needs to be surprising to be noteworthy or critiqued. If tomorrow Meta leaks all data of all users I really wish the reactions aren't "not surprised" and instead "hang them and tar them".

Same way, the need to earn money shouldn't be an excuse for whatever a company does. I'd be a lot more interested in knowing if/why you think it will be a net positive for society and why it should be left to happen.

la_fayette 16 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't get your point here. User targeted ads are the main business model of the internet? Yes, few days ago it was revealed how billions of user data points could be gathered from Meta [1], did anybody care, outside a small privacy community? So indead these things are not surprising... My thoughts don't go so far to consider the effects on society, idk, do you?

[1] https://www.heise.de/en/news/3-5-Billion-Accounts-Complete-W...

makeitdouble 14 hours ago | parent [-]

> User targeted ads are the main business model of the internet?

Ads helped the internet get up and expand, but it went to a degree that now plagues most aspect of our online life.

Google being first and foremost an ad company is an issue we're tackling, from the search engine becoming dog shit, to Google subsidizing Apple to not compete with them, online content getting shaped to fit advertisers' needs etc.

Another potential tech giant adopting the most toxic business model is IMO something to be pissed about.