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jeltz 28 minutes ago

Sadly a lot of engineers have been indoctrinated into this mindset and I have had to fight quite many battles to conceive my fellow engineers that missing a deadline is not the worst thing in the world.

lukan 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by." ― Douglas Adams

veverkap 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Then you've been fortunate to work at places that respect engineering.

jeltz 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes, I have. I have also worked at placed which do not. And the difference is night and day. The places which respect engineering are more fun to work at, deliver better features for less cost and the code is better. Only places which can deliver faster are crazy startups which constantly crunch time (I have worked at those too) but those are hell and the code is a mess.

The main cost I have seen at places which respect engineering is lower predictability. It is harder to budget and plan even if the end result in average is usually cheaper and always better.