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zozbot234 4 hours ago

The word "eroticism" in this article is quite misplaced. A fleeting sexual thought about a stranger who happens to be providing a service to you in that moment (hair brushing, apparently) has nothing to do with eroticism, precisely because it's not "sexualizing" in any real-world sense. Incidentally, eroticism properly understood (i.e. turning actual consensual love, intimacy and perhaps even sexuality itself into a genuine, positive and human-affirming artform) is also quite dead, but not for any reasons this article is talking about. It's just getting caught in a cross-fire between the most disrespectful and lewdest sort of commercial hardcore pr0n and a kind of renewed, reactive prudery from governments and policy-makers.

noobermin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

She means being horny and being open about it, but the word "erotic" sort of has lost its meaning as you are saying, yes.

johnnyanmac 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>A fleeting sexual thought about a stranger who happens to be providing a service to you in that moment (hair brushing, apparently) has nothing to do with eroticism

I argue that's eroticism in its purest form.

>a quality that causes sexual feelings, as well as a philosophical contemplation concerning the aesthetics of sexual desire, sensuality, and romantic love.

both subjects don't need to be purposefully sexualizing for an erotic event to happen. That's a bit of what powers some of the more out there fetishes (like say, having your feet massaged, which has nerve connections to many more part of the body than one expects). It can escalate to something sexual, but most adult humans tend to learn how to suppress such desires, no different than not buying that candy at the store or hot wanting to slap Bob at work when he talks about the latest conspiracy theory.

>eroticism properly understood (i.e. turning actual consensual love, intimacy and perhaps even sexuality itself into a genuine, positive and human-affirming artform) is also quite dead

I guess so. The US has been so screwed on sexuality for decades that there's no one true meaning anymore. Which isn't bad, but when you range from "a person looked pretty" to "Onlyfans DM's" your word may indeed lose meaning.

It's interestingly enough a global issue too, in terms of policy. But unfortunately it's pretty low priority compared to the rest of everything else going on.

noobermin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Eroticism is more about art and media. Being sexually aroused is not art, it is an occurrence in the real world.

This is like saying science fiction is talking to a chatbot. OP is being a bit pedantic.

johnnyanmac 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Being sexually aroused is not art, it is an occurrence in the real world.

Based on the definition I shared, it's not about your feelings. It's the quality of what made you feel that way. An important bu subtle difference.

To take your example, it's less about the chatbot and more about how and what it responds with. If suddenly it's responding based on its remembered experiences and sense of the world, I. E. 'Sentience', we would start to wonder if its science fiction.

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carlosjobim 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Of course it isn't about art and media. If you think so, then you need to go and find your soul, because it isn't with you currently.

carlosjobim 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Edit: Reply to the commenter below, who unfortunately was down voted. I didn't mean it in that way at all. I mean it as in finding a missing part of your essence, which we all have to do at times. Eroticism is in everyday life if we allow it to be and don't shun away from it, just like courage, adventure, challenge, mystery, and a lot of other essential experiences of the soul, which the modern mass man system tries to erase.

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