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kibwen an hour ago

The fact that the price is being dramatically raised to the grand total of $37 says more about how fantastically cheap it is to visit the Louvre currently. They could easily double that and not see any noticeable decrease in ticket sales from tourists.

philipwhiuk 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Depends on your point of comparison - the British Museum is free.

dietr1ch 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

Well, they got their exhibits for free, didn't they?

627467 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Louvre's content was mostly acquired fairly at market prices?

p_j_w 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

GP is likely referring to the British Museum, which is famous for having stolen goods.

blibble 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

France was a colonial power and an attempted empire too...

627467 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I know, hence my question

cellis 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Go back far enough and everything was stolen from someone

baiac 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Absurd, anti-colonialist rhetoric.

xhkkffbf 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Funny line-- but I think it's important to highlight how the Brits were able to find value and unlock a history in objects that other cultures stopped caring about.

While people like to say they "stole" things, there's no evidence they ever took something that others actually cared about or took the least interest in protecting. The Elgin marbles were just flopped around a field and no locals seemed to care at all. Some of the items were purchased directly from their owner at a price negotiated with a willing seller.

I think the British museum is proof of how scholarship and gentle care can preserve our past and create something that people love to visit and learn about.

PKop 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If conquest was easy, or "free", everyone would do it. But it is actually a skill issue.

seydor 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They had to do the work of looting them

julienfr112 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I paid to see the rosetta stone ...

Symbiote 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

The permanent exhibition is free, special exhibitions often have an entry charge.

stackedinserter 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

You probably understand museum business model wrong.

troupo 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's impossible to overstate how cheap this is, but I think you have to actually go The Louvre to understand that. It's enormous.

(In comparison Versaille is absolute bullshit that everyone should just skip. IMO).

ebiester 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I really enjoyed the garden there - we spent hours happily. And we don't have a lot of palaces where I'm from.

And I didn't really enjoy the Louvre, especially compared to Musée d'Orsay and Centre Pompidou.

karmakurtisaani 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

Louvre get sort of boring, since the time period they cover stops at the time when art gets more and more interesting (mid 1800s). Before that every painting is basically Jesus or boobs.

Still well worth a visit definitely.

orwin 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

But then you have all the Egyptian wing no?

kccqzy 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah I made that mistake when visiting Paris for the first time: budgeted half a day for the Louvre and an entire day for Versailles. Should the other way around or as you say, skip the Versailles.

throw-the-towel 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As far as French palaces go, I liked Fontainebleau way more.

stackedinserter 23 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

TBH the most interesting thing in Louvre is that crowd in front of Mona Lisa, which is an art performance by itself.

deadbabe 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’d wager that you could 10x for non-EU tourists and still make more money and have way less crowds leading to a better experience for all.

vintagedave 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> I’d wager that you could 10x for non-EU tourists

Except for normal people, where $400 a ticket is absolutely prohibitive. I can't imagine being able to take a family there at that sort of price. (To be honest, even at $40 that could add up quickly.)

I firmly believe institutions like museums should be accessible by everyone. I understand higher prices for non-EU people, on the logic that they need more income somehow and tourists are more likely to be able to afford it -- so long as they keep student prices, family/children prices etc.

snayan 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lol, I mean, if we ignore the experience of all the people who are priced out, then sure? Appreciation of culture shouldn't be reserved for the rich.

technothrasher 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Botswana vs Kenya is an interesting example of this that I've experienced first hand. Kenya is overcrowded with safari tourists, which ruins the experience and very much effects the wildlife dynamic. Botswana has many fewer tourists on safari and so protects the natural environment better, but it does this by pricing themselves such that only rich people can afford it.

snayan 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Interesting, I think you have to consider the system as a whole and the impacted stakeholders when considering pricing.

In your example, if we consider the environment a stakeholder, and the fact that increased safari impact has a negative impact on the ecosystem, there's a stronger argument for higher price.

In the case of the Louvre, the paintings and sculptures aren't going to be harmed by having more eyeballs on them, so, there's a stronger case to maximize access.

Workaccount2 4 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Pricing things high is an easy and effective way of limiting demand. I wish more people understood it's not always greed.

charcircuit 5 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Being priced out doesn't mean you can't appreciate the culture, you just can't visit it in person. It still can be possible to experience remotely via computers.

p_j_w 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have a similar line of thought every time I go to a national park. I dont really like hanging out around a bunch of strangers’ kids, but this would prevent a lot of families from being able to afford to go do things like this, and it’s good to let kids be exposed to things like really amazing art and national parks. Poor people should be able to enjoy them too.

ephimetheus 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

Didn’t they just drastically increase the price for non US citizens? I think it almost went up by 10x

williamdclt 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> better experience for all

for the well-off*

rjh29 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Assuming you're American you may be missing just how strong the USD is and how expensive $37 is for much of Europe. -You- consider it cheap and that's the whole point of the price rise.

kibwen 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

Compared to the price of a round-trip plane ticket to Paris, hotel, and food for the whole trip, this ticket increase is immaterial for tourists. And the whole point of the article is that the price increase is only for non-EU citizens.