Why are we giving up. Shouldn't we stand up against Oppressive governments and Corporations.

wartywhoa23 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That's the point I implied! We absolutely should, and must. But the only viable way to do so seems to be by following Ghandi's principles of personal non-violent sabotage against the oppressor, which requires unity and cooperation between people, and that, alas, is very questionable these days. Half of us won't even admit they're oppressed! When a single shoemaker makes two left shoes instead of a normal pair the opressor orders, he's out to look for a new job. When every shoemaker out there makes only left shoes, the oppressor has to go f2k himself and learn some craft or manners.

Old ways that seemed to be working, like democratic elections? I don't think so. Not anymore.

	▲	alkindiffie 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I don't think one thing will solve it, but everyone who knows better can contribute in their own. For example by teaching people about privacy, encryption and free software. Writing books, doing podcasts aimed at the general public to promote privacy tech. Talking to your local government and municipalities, become the local expert and proposing policies.

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jack_tripper 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Shouldn't we stand up against Oppressive governments and Corporations.

How? Governments have the monopoly on violence through their control of the police and military, and corporations bribe the governments in power to do their bidding and also control the media apparatus via which the voting population makes their democratic decisions, so you get this corrupt symbiotic relationship between the first and second estate (the government and wealthy elite private sector) to keep the third estate (common population) oppressed.

So how do you actually coordinate hundreds of millions of people towards a single goal to "fight" against and apparatus of oppression with an order of magnitude more kinetic strike, intelligence gathering and propaganda capabilities than the common folk?

People keep fantasizing about the French revolution and guillotines, but King Louis XVI didn't have Air Force One, doomsday bunkers in New Zeeland, AC-130s, Predator, Reaper and Anduril drones to protect him. The force disparity between the ruling elite and peasantry is now like that meme of hydrogen bomb versus coughing baby.